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QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 09:57 AM)
Randy Wells has been pretty awful this year. I would think we could put up 5 or 6 on him today.

I hope people stop posting things like this whenever we face an awful pitcher since we seemingly never take advantage.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 10:00 AM)
I hope people stop posting things like this whenever we face an awful pitcher since we seemingly never take advantage.

 

I'm just trying to be hopeful.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 10:00 AM)
I hope people stop posting things like this whenever we face an awful pitcher since we seemingly never take advantage.

 

I hope people stop posting things like this whenever someone is optimistic.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 09:47 AM)
That Cub lineup is so awful. How do they ever win any games?

 

The Cubs have a bad looking lineup, but they have been hitting more than the Sox. As usual, if Jackson doesn't have his slider he's gonna get beat. I hate the Cubs as much as anybody here, but they may just take 2 of 3 this weekend...

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 09:47 AM)
That Cub lineup is so awful. How do they ever win any games?

 

Looking at the OPSs of both teams, one would think the Cubs would have won 6 more games than the Sox, not vice versa. And this doesn't include Adam Dunn's sparkling .619.

 

Pierre lf - .626

Morel 3b - .564

Quentin rf - .886

Konerko 1b - .970

AJ c - .723

Ramirez ss - .757

Rios cf - .594

Beckham 2b - .653

 

AVERAGE OPS - .722

 

Fukudome rf - .761

Barney 2b - .676

Castro ss - .778

Ramirez 3b - .797

Pena 1b - .806

Soriano lf - .818

Johnson cf - .940

Soto c - .745

 

AVERAGE OPS - .790

 

 

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 11:24 AM)
Looking at the OPSs of both teams, one would think the Cubs would have won 6 more games than the Sox, not vice versa. And this doesn't include Adam Dunn's sparkling .619.

 

Pierre lf - .626

Morel 3b - .564

Quentin rf - .886

Konerko 1b - .970

AJ c - .723

Ramirez ss - .757

Rios cf - .594

Beckham 2b - .653

 

AVERAGE OPS - .722

 

Fukudome rf - .761

Barney 2b - .676

Castro ss - .778

Ramirez 3b - .797

Pena 1b - .806

Soriano lf - .818

Johnson cf - .940

Soto c - .745

 

AVERAGE OPS - .790

 

 

Yeah, seriously the Cubs can hit. It's the defense and bullpen that is their undoing.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 11:24 AM)
Looking at the OPSs of both teams, one would think the Cubs would have won 6 more games than the Sox, not vice versa. And this doesn't include Adam Dunn's sparkling .619.

 

Pierre lf - .626

Morel 3b - .564

Quentin rf - .886

Konerko 1b - .970

AJ c - .723

Ramirez ss - .757

Rios cf - .594

Beckham 2b - .653

 

AVERAGE OPS - .722

 

Fukudome rf - .761

Barney 2b - .676

Castro ss - .778

Ramirez 3b - .797

Pena 1b - .806

Soriano lf - .818

Johnson cf - .940

Soto c - .745

 

AVERAGE OPS - .790

 

I'm not sure it's right to just average all the OPS numbers from each team. Reed Johnson has a .940 OPS in how many PAs?

 

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QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 11:29 AM)
Yeah, seriously the Cubs can hit. It's the defense and bullpen that is their undoing.

 

The Cubs have scored 2 more runs than the Sox this year. They've both played 82 games.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 12:04 PM)
I'm not sure it's right to just average all the OPS numbers from each team. Reed Johnson has a .940 OPS in how many PAs?

 

106 ABs. I know its not an exact science and that would be like counting Lilli's .846 OPS in a similar amount of at-bats. I was just showing that their lineup has probably been better hitting than ours.

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 12:09 PM)
106 ABs. I know its not an exact science and that would be like counting Lilli's .846 OPS in a similar amount of at-bats. I was just showing that their lineup has probably been better hitting than ours.

 

Perhaps.

 

But the Cubs only lead the Sox in wOBA by a mere 4 points. They also have the same wRC+ (park adjusted wOBA basically).

 

These teams are both very mediocre at hitting and scoring this year. But if it were any other year, both would suck hard.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 12:17 PM)
Perhaps.

 

But the Cubs only lead the Sox in wOBA by a mere 4 points. They also have the same wRC+ (park adjusted wOBA basically).

 

These teams are both very mediocre at hitting and scoring this year. But if it were any other year, both would suck hard.

No idea what the bolded means... but with similar offenses results-wise, it comes down to pitching (hugely in favor of the Sox) and defense (somewhat in favor of the Sox). So let's play like the better team and win at least two.

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 1, 2011 -> 12:21 PM)
No idea what the bolded means... but with similar offenses results-wise, it comes down to pitching (hugely in favor of the Sox) and defense (somewhat in favor of the Sox). So let's play like the better team and win at least two.

 

Offense has been down this year. The Sox have a .314 wOBA. The Cubs have a .318 wOBA. In any previous year in the past two decades (except maybe last year and 1992), those would be in the bottom 33% of the league. But this year, since offense is down, it's right about average.

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