fathom Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:27 PM) .500 or .525 is the maximum upside. Losing this one, three of four or all four to Minnie and a 3-7 start the second half and we are finally done by the end of July. Well, if we're going to fade, better to do it the next 3 weeks instead of doing it in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 02:28 PM) They're even managing to overcome an imploding closer. You just know he'll go 1-2-3 against us, somehow. He's been temporarily pulled from the closer role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:27 PM) In our last 23 games, we've scored more than 3 runs against the starting pitcher ONCE. That was Randy Wells, courtesy of Mike Quade. So basically anybody who goes out there shuts us down. Bye bye Greg Walker. Bye bye Ozzie. Why are they waiting to fire people and change things?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I see a CG 3 hit shutout for Chen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 02:29 PM) So basically anybody who goes out there shuts us down. Bye bye Greg Walker. Bye bye Ozzie. Why are they waiting to fire people and change things?? One of life's big mysteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:29 PM) Well, if we're going to fade, better to do it the next 3 weeks instead of doing it in August. It'll be the same thing they did last year. s*** start to the second half will end it early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 02:29 PM) So basically anybody who goes out there shuts us down. Bye bye Greg Walker. Bye bye Ozzie. Why are they waiting to fire people and change things?? because its the players who should be fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Good news is that Hector Santiago's been perfect in his two weeks up with the big league squad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 02:26 PM) If the games continues without the White Sox scoring a run, would anyone argue there's been a worse White Sox game this season? I remember the last Sox game I could attend in person, it was early 2009 and Garcia started at home against the Twins and we lost 21 or 22-1 or something like that. That was entertaining because it was at least interesting to watch the offense from the other team. That was the same day Jake said no to us the first time. Wish he said no the second... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 02:30 PM) because its the players who should be fired Even though we have had this horrid offensive approach since the second half of the 2006 season? The players have changed, but the manager/hitting coach haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:30 PM) That was the same day Jake said no to us the first time. Wish he said no the second... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 This is so funny. I guess if people want to pay for this s*** more power to 'em. Team has proven it cannot hit ANY starting pitcher in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:30 PM) because its the players who should be fired I know. I'm including them. The firesale should have started long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:31 PM) This is so funny. I guess if people want to pay for this s*** more power to 'em. Team has proven it cannot hit ANY starting pitcher in the league. I don't even want to think of how bad our offensive stats would be if not for Jeff Niemann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChrisSamsa Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 02:27 PM) .500 or .525 is the maximum upside. Losing this one, three of four or all four to Minnie and a 3-7 start the second half and we are finally done by the end of July. .525 (85 wins) could win this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Lifeless, unmotivated, unfocused, and nothing changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 02:27 PM) .500 or .525 is the maximum upside. Losing this one, three of four or all four to Minnie and a 3-7 start the second half and we are finally done by the end of July. Still not convinced, Greg. I'm not sure we can really play ourselves out of hailing distance. It's the curse of the White Sox. Just when you want to throw out all expectations, they'll rally and you start to believe in them again. A sweep by the Twins and then 3 more offdays during the break to mull over 6 consecutive losses MIGHT MIGHT be enough to get something to change. But doubtful. Amazing the Twins COULD be 1 1/2 games ahead of us after Sunday's finale. Now that's unlikely, but not out of the realm of possibility. You know the Twins will bring it and we've been playing flat as hell. We were very, very lucky to get that balk Monday or it wasn't looking good in extras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 These games are so much better to watch on Gamecast. You don't get the pleasure of seeing how many BP fastballs our team is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Chen's ERA is down to 3.17 in 10 starts this season. If he keeps it under 4 this month, I wonder if the Royals could get a decent prospect for him at the deadline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Blackburn is right about the free swinging. How many of our guys are just hacking and guessing. The games I watch I see check swings on the first and second pitch all the time with players going around. So KC could have easily swept this series and no changes. Hilarious. At least Minnie's sweep will force Jerry to do something. I'd expect Walker will be canned at the break after the Minnie sweep. That will be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Lifeless, unmotivated, unfocused, and nothing changes. 2nd time around and we are still clueless. Another lead off man on. I wonder if they will score again. Getting schooled by a 34-51 team. Woohoo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 It's also amazing for as long as Santiago has been with the big club, we haven't seen him. Shows two things in my mind: the Sox want to protect him and we've been in a ton of close games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 07:35 PM) It's also amazing for as long as Santiago has been with the big club, we haven't seen him. Shows two things in my mind: the Sox want to protect him and we've been in a ton of close games. Hasn't been a lead bigger than 3 in a game we've played in for a hell of a long time. I feel awful for our starting pitchers where 3 runs allowed seems like they're giving us no chance to win. Edited July 6, 2011 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 02:33 PM) Chen's ERA is down to 3.17 in 10 starts this season. If he keeps it under 4 this month, I wonder if the Royals could get a decent prospect for him at the deadline? We might as well just give them Viciedo so J4L can officially cross the line to Royals' fandom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uman85 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 03:33 PM) Chen's ERA is down to 3.17 in 10 starts this season. If he keeps it under 4 this month, I wonder if the Royals could get a decent prospect for him at the deadline? If I were the Royals I'd keep him. He's Cy Chen in this divison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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