ILMOU Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 04:58 PM) Pass on that. He does a great job with the pitching staff. Let him focus on that. And let him know very clearly that you want him to $tay. Coop is a still under-appreciated godsend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:06 PM) And let him know very clearly that you want him to $tay. Coop is a still under-appreciated godsend. Agreed, don't understand the logic of not already ensuring he's part of the coaching staff next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Ozzie deserves to be fired after the way he managed the game today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:09 PM) Ozzie deserves to be fired after the way he managed the game today. I'm not sure what to expect, whether it's nothing (which has been the standard operating procedure all season), fire the hitting coach, or do something a bit more drastic like getting rid of Cora/Guillen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 My question is how strong the relationship is between the coaching staff and if Coop and Oz are tied at the hip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:13 PM) My question is how strong the relationship is between the coaching staff and if Coop and Oz are tied at the hip. I know Cora and Guillen are thought to be tied at the hip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:14 PM) I know Cora and Guillen are thought to be tied at the hip. Oh for sure, and thank god for that. Personally, whoever our next manager is, I hope our bench coach isn't a mini version of him. I get the feeling that Baines would prefer to stay in Chicago, regardless of whoever the manager is (not like whoever the 1B coach is a pressing matter). Cox is a solid 3B coach, but it's no big loss if he leaves. Walker, I would have to imagine, would be gone for sure no matter what. There is just no way to justify keeping him if Ozzie is gone. Coop is really the only coach that needs to stay here for life unless a different team wants to give him a shot at being manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:53 PM) I'm really starting to have my doubts about the talent. Hope you're right It didn't disappear that quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:27 PM) Oh for sure, and thank god for that. Personally, whoever our next manager is, I hope our bench coach isn't a mini version of him. I get the feeling that Baines would prefer to stay in Chicago, regardless of whoever the manager is (not like whoever the 1B coach is a pressing matter). Cox is a solid 3B coach, but it's no big loss if he leaves. Walker, I would have to imagine, would be gone for sure no matter what. There is just no way to justify keeping him if Ozzie is gone. Coop is really the only coach that needs to stay here for life unless a different team wants to give him a shot at being manager. If a change was made mid-season, I'm not sure how that impact the current coaching staff. My guess would be that Cora would be gone, maybe you get another new coach, but I think the makeover would come in the off-season. I would hope that Cooper would be safe under any new manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 04:15 PM) Hope it's true that Ozzie's gone soon, but Kenny deserves it more than anyone. I'd be willing to gift wrap Rios for the Marlins. Oz aint perfect.....but there's plenty of dead weight, non aggressive, lightwts on this team.....starting w Alex Rios or Mark Teahen. Who's decision was it spend big $ to sign, Rios, Teahen, Dunn, Peavy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:35 PM) If a change was made mid-season, I'm not sure how that impact the current coaching staff. My guess would be that Cora would be gone, maybe you get another new coach, but I think the makeover would come in the off-season. I would hope that Cooper would be safe under any new manager. Agreed. But I would hope that any scenario that involves Oz leaving mid-season, that Cora and Walker would be automatically included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:39 PM) Agreed. But I would hope that any scenario that involves Oz leaving mid-season, that Cora and Walker would be automatically included. Cora would be gone for sure, I think Walker is likely gone as well given the struggles of the hitters. I have no idea what, if anything, is going to happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 If a change comes it will be after the season. They aren't so far behind that they can't stay "all in" the rest of the way. I wouldn't mind seeing it but I very much doubt it. A rebuild with a new manager is appropiate after one last hurrah the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Love Ozzie for 2005 but he's gotta go, it's best for him and the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I love it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I really want to see what this team can do with a different vibe in the clubhouse and in the dugout. I'm not sure which I'd prefer more...a numbers guy or a hard ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 QUOTE (since56 @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 01:08 AM) If a change comes it will be after the season. They aren't so far behind that they can't stay "all in" the rest of the way. I wouldn't mind seeing it but I very much doubt it. A rebuild with a new manager is appropiate after one last hurrah the second half. Why? This will be perfect for Ozzie, who can instantly join a network as analyst while negotiating with Florida. It's pretty obvious he's Florida's next manager, so might as well get it started now. Who knows? If the new manager can get these loafers to play ball for 10 days or so, the guys might be interested enough to be in the putrid Central Division race the rest of the way. Then as we all know, we're counting on a similar pitching performance as 05 and we win it all. I can dream. Bye, Oz. It's really sad it didn't work out. Oz is still a young man, coulda been with us a LONG LONG time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:29 PM) Neither one of those sound plausible. A guy looking for a job is going to call Ozzie? BS. And the Sox reached out to LaRussa? Yeah, I don't see that one either. "Former manager" and "guy looking for a job" aren't necessarily the same thing. If KW was gauging interest, then he was trying to find out whether a given former manager was, in fact, looking for a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 There's no way there is any truth to this rumor. The Sox are not going to refund ticket money to the thousands of fans who purchased Ozzie season ticket plans for the 2011 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Buster_ESPN Buster Olney Lots of rumors swirling about managerial change with the White Sox, but high-ranking source says change with Ozzie not being considered. from twitter....ug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 09:11 PM) Buster_ESPN Buster Olney Lots of rumors swirling about managerial change with the White Sox, but high-ranking source says change with Ozzie not being considered. from twitter....ug Goddamnit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 After last year, I just conceded Ozzie will be here for life until he wants to leave. I love Ozzie, so I can tolerate his boneheadedness, but I wouldn't be sad to see him gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 this organization has gone stale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 QUOTE (zenryan @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 04:48 AM) this organization has gone stale. I know. Why can't they change some things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:43 PM) I really want to see what this team can do with a different vibe in the clubhouse and in the dugout. I'm not sure which I'd prefer more...a numbers guy or a hard ass. A hard ass is nothing but a noise maker in a sport of guaranteed contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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