danman31 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Knights doubleheader @ Gwinnett Game 1 Zaleski Game 2 later Barons @ Jackson Griffith Dash @ Salem Furnish Intimidators doubleheader @ Lakewood Game 1 Upchurch Voyagers @ Helena 7:05 (Walker's debut) Snodgress (interesting that he's starting) Bristol @ Burlington Matos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 (edited) Tyler homers for Charlotte, he is having a decent July: AVG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS Totals .286 35 5 10 2 0 3 7 4 19 0 0 .390 .600 .990 K´s/BB´s ratio still uneven but all in all very prductive. Edited July 9, 2011 by SpainSOXfan09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:54 PM) Tyler homers for Charlotte, he is having a decent July: AVG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS Totals .286 35 5 10 2 0 3 7 4 19 0 0 .390 .600 .990 K´s/BB´s ratio still uneven but all in all very prductive. And Lucy just came into the game for him. Welcome to the bigs again kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 And Lucy just came into the game for him. Welcome to the bigs again kid. Dan, has Flowers been to the show already? If so how much service time does he have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayelBurton Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Nick McCully starting game 2 for Kannapolis. Burnside pushed back to tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:03 PM) Dan, has Flowers been to the show already? If so how much service time does he have? September call-ups the last 2 years. 3/16 with 3 BB and 8 K in 09. 1/11 with 4 BB and 5 K last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 September call-ups the last 2 years. 3/16 with 3 BB and 8 K in 09. 1/11 with 4 BB and 5 K last year. Based on this he still has 3 ARB years left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:06 PM) September call-ups the last 2 years. 3/16 with 3 BB and 8 K in 09. 1/11 with 4 BB and 5 K last year. Cups o' coffee. This will be a better look that I'm rather looking forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:09 PM) Based on this he still has 3 ARB years left. 40-man call ups don't start the arb clock, but this would. He's still a rookie with 2 options left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:11 PM) Cups o' coffee. This will be a better look that I'm rather looking forward to. Do you expect him to get more than 6 PA per week? I'm not so sure. It was Castro that got hurt after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:12 PM) Do you expect him to get more than 6 PA per week? I'm not so sure. It was Castro that got hurt after all. Yeah, I guess AJ will play even more, but if they don't play TF hardly ever, it'll be pretty obvious he's not the long term plan A. I'm guessing he isn't plan A and KW would love to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:18 PM) Yeah, I guess AJ will play even more, but if they don't play TF hardly ever, it'll be pretty obvious he's not the long term plan A. I'm guessing he isn't plan A and KW would love to trade him. At this point, the Sox would be idiotic to have Tyler as the long-term plan. If Tyler was the long-term plan AJ wouldn't have been resigned. Tyler is still an option, but there's no way the Sox are expecting him to hold down the catcher slot for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Yeah, I guess AJ will play even more, but if they don't play TF hardly ever, it'll be pretty obvious he's not the long term plan A. I'm guessing he isn't plan A and KW would love to trade him. This would bite as he is having an ok year and what I would term as starting to turn it around. The other co-incidence is that DV is out of the lineup but that must be to do with his All Star appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted July 9, 2011 Author Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:21 PM) This would bite as he is having an ok year and what I would term as starting to turn it around. The other co-incidence is that DV is out of the lineup but that must be to do with his All Star appearance. Frankly, I don't see all the recent optimism around Flowers. He's hitting .255 with 84 K in 220 AB in AAA. Yeah, he walks and has power, but that contact rate should put him barely above Adam Dunn's territory right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 Does T-Flow get the call now that Castro is out due to a broken hand or is it Lucy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 9, 2011 Share Posted July 9, 2011 QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:27 PM) Frankly, I don't see all the recent optimism around Flowers. He's hitting .255 with 84 K in 220 AB in AAA. Yeah, he walks and has power, but that contact rate should put him barely above Adam Dunn's territory right now. I'm totally with you. I don't expect him to succeed. More wishing for a pleasant surprise/showcase for trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 06:33 PM) Does T-Flow get the call now that Castro is out due to a broken hand or is it Lucy? Flowers for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayelBurton Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Viciedo getting both games off in a Charlotte DH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Something is going on with Viciedo it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmithxc Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 07:27 PM) Frankly, I don't see all the recent optimism around Flowers. He's hitting .255 with 84 K in 220 AB in AAA. Yeah, he walks and has power, but that contact rate should put him barely above Adam Dunn's territory right now. He has an OPS around .890 in AAA at a position that currently has miserable hitting depth league-wide. What's average production this year in the MLB at that position? .700 OPS? Yes, he still strikes out far too often, and it is a legitimate question just how far his production will far off unless he cuts down on those strikeouts at least a bit (and whether he could even keep up this level of production at AAA). But the good news: he is playing catcher. Being a successful hitting catcher is a pretty low threshold. Not saying they should pencil him in as the future starter. But I am definitely interested to see how he can do going forward, both at the AAA and the major league levels. Also, while strikeouts are a part of Dunn's problems, by far the bigger issue is his lack of power: .164 ISO, infield fly % that has shot up, HR/FB rate that is half his career rate all point toward weak hitting even when he makes contact (as everyone can tell just by watching him). Not trying to start a debate about Dunn, but the point is: Flowers can strike out 35% of the time and still hit a lot better than Dunn this year. Like I said, skepticism is warranted, but so, I think, is optimism (or at least interest) given his solid production this year and the production by catchers in general in the majors. Edited July 10, 2011 by asmithxc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) Nice to see Mitchell back in the .230's. 1/4, 2 K's. News worse for Thompson fans, 0/5 with 4 K's, .225. Edited July 10, 2011 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Just an FYI, but someone on here recently stated that the exact plan was for Flowers to be the back-up catcher next year, so this is a good audition for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayelBurton Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) Keenyn Walker doubles and then scores in his first professional at bat. Add a Outfeild Assist in the 1st inning (CF-3B) Edited July 10, 2011 by LayelBurton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 08:02 PM) Just an FYI, but someone on here recently stated that the exact plan was for Flowers to be the back-up catcher next year, so this is a good audition for him. I believe it was docsox. (and if it was, he has some of the best sources around) BTW, Shoemaker continues his torrid pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I forgot Viciedo is playing the Future's Game tomorrow. That's why he's off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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