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[Balta1701]

You can also go back to the Billy Koch failed experiment. KW's fundamental belief in "stuff" (ironic, since Koch had lost his electric stuff due to overuse)...but that period of acquiring all those guys like MacDougal, Aaardsma, Masset and Sisco.

 

All of those guys ended up blowing up in their faces...Masset, you can argue that he just never got enough chances with the Sox, but he's obviously done pretty well with the Reds.

 

Gavin Floyd, Jackson, Peavy (at one point)...all with the "stuff" or arsenal to be "aces" and yet very rarely have we seen that out of them in 2011.

 

Meanwhile, we've gotten much better results out of the Buerhle's, Humber's and Danks'es (until 2011) of the world, all things considered.

Phil Humber was a top 5 pick because of his "Stuff". Matt Thornton was a guy that we grabbed because of his stuff. Bobby Jenks we took a huge risk on because of his stuff. Sergio Santos was out of options last year and we put him on the major league roster, where he had no business being based on performance, entirely because we didn't want to lose a guy with his stuff.

[MexSoxFan#1]

I could see how the Twins would lose every time against the stacked Yankees, they were simply the better team but Minny also got owned by an on paper inferior A's team a few years ago...that was awesome.

[caulfield12]

Obviously, there have been occasions it has worked out, Jenks/Politte/Santos (so far) and Thornton.

 

But I'd hardly call the Humber we acquired off the scrap heap a "stuff pitcher" (in 2011) any more than JVB from the Pirates.

 

And 89-92 MPH fastball is basically league average these days. He's gotten results so far because of his command and his full repertoire a pitches, particularly the curveball, which has been consistently good, at least until his last start.

 

But yeah...I think at one point we had the most #1 draft picks of any MLB team (including a FEW of our own) on our roster.

 

Ability/talent...but not proven "winning" talent or a roster that was put together with cohesiveness, "complementary" skills and chemistry in mind.

 

 

As much as it's overstated (because Pods fell off in 2005 when he came back from injury), Podsednik and Iguchi really worked well together at the top of that order. Ever since those teams....we've struggled to find a good leadoff hitter and a #2 hitter as well. Cabrera wasn't bad...but we all know how well that worked out. Alexei should be fine, too. It's just unfortunate now that Pierre's getting on base so much he's completely a shadow of the basestealing threat he was just a year ago.

 

EDIT: And I forgot Contreras and Garcia, in their primes, two of the best "stuff" pitchers in all of baseball, while they lasted.

Edited July 11, 2011 by caulfield12

[JoeBatterz]

Rosey is right.

 

How execute it, that is another matter.

[Eminor3rd]

It means that the Sox have the pitching staff to beat the elite teams whereas the Twins get by beating the lesser teams and really have no one to match up against the better teams in 7 game series.

 

But why can't the staff that beats elite teams beat lesser teams too? Makes no sense.

[Steve9347]

He said in the Trib today that The Twins are always built to win the AL Central and not the World Series, while the Sox are always built to win the World Series and not the AL Central.

If there's one thing this White Sox team screams at me, it's "built to win the World Series".

 

Yeesh.