macsandz Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 DeAza .327/9/36 SB:21 Bring his MF'ing Aza up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Methinks Charlotte numbers are bloated. Hell, T-Flow was rocking a .390 obp down there. We shall see, though, as a lot of sticks down there are performing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 12:29 PM) Methinks Charlotte numbers are bloated. Hell, T-Flow was rocking a .390 obp down there. We shall see, though, as a lot of sticks down there are performing. His numbers on the road are just as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 11:29 AM) Methinks Charlotte numbers are bloated. Hell, T-Flow was rocking a .390 obp down there. We shall see, though, as a lot of sticks down there are performing. Not Viciedo's of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 11:38 AM) Not Viciedo's of course. I never said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 04:29 PM) DeAza .327/9/36 SB:21 Bring his MF'ing Aza up! AAA numbers don't always translate into a succesful major league career, but I am almost ready to try anything. De Aza certainly gives his all from what I picked up from Spring Training. Viciedo too. Maybe the infusion of those two fellows would jump start the team offesne, but heaven forbid if they struggled for a couple weeks getting their feet wet in the bigs. Who goes down or who gets released or traded? Morel down and maybe our non-existent DH to the injury list? Edited July 21, 2011 by elrockinMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 It wouldnt take much to outperform Alex Rios regardless of what numbers are inflated. I'm pretty sure anyone we brought up could at least give us something other than 2 ground outs and a pop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 12:03 PM) It wouldnt take much to outperform Alex Rios regardless of what numbers are inflated. I'm pretty sure anyone we brought up could at least give us something other than 2 ground outs and a pop up. Preach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 11:03 AM) It wouldnt take much to outperform Alex Rios regardless of what numbers are inflated. I'm pretty sure anyone we brought up could at least give us something other than 2 ground outs and a pop up. De Aza is a classic AAAA player, but you're still 100% right in saying this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 12:13 PM) De Aza is a classic AAAA player, but you're still 100% right in saying this. Ugh, how many of those have the Sox brought up over the years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 12:13 PM) De Aza is a classic AAAA player, but you're still 100% right in saying this. He has 194 major league ABs in parts of 3 seasons, spread out over 4 years. That is extremely premature at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 11:17 AM) He has 194 major league ABs in parts of 3 seasons, spread out over 4 years. That is extremely premature at this point. Well he's only 27, so he's not too old yet (although I wouldn't say my statement is extremely premature, either). He just has AAAA written all over him IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) FYI. Alex Rios 2011: .212 .258 .307 .565 Darren Erstad 2007 (arguably one of the worst players in CF in recent Sox history) .248 .310 .335 .645 Edit: Brian Anderson Career numbers .227 .290 .370 .660 He would be an upgrade over Alex Rios as well. Edited July 21, 2011 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Rios just plays the game of baseball very poorly. Throws to wrong bases, doesn't try to advance runners, can't get hits with 2 outs and RISP, and he doesn't hustle. I'm all for benching him or just trading him for another bad contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 01:21 PM) Well he's only 27, so he's not too old yet (although I wouldn't say my statement is extremely premature, either). He just has AAAA written all over him IMO. Florida really liked him, and started the 2007 season with him as their starting Cf, but injuries pretty much derailed his next 2 years. By the time 2009 rolled around, Chris Coghlan and Cody Ross had sorta grabbed those spots and De Aza had just fallen behind them on the map. He's always hit well in the minors, a team with really good scouting liked him, but he got hurt right at the point where he got his chance, and he's never gotten another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 De Aza's major league numbers with the Sox (small sample): .300 .323 .400 .723 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I never thought I'd find myself saying this, but maybe it IS time to try Viciedo and De Aza. DL Dunn and Rios, bring the kids up and see what happens. Who knows... maybe they'll be the much needed spark for this offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 12:21 PM) Well he's only 27, so he's not too old yet (although I wouldn't say my statement is extremely premature, either). He just has AAAA written all over him IMO. Some guys take a while to get going. I hate to use Batista as an example because I think there are other reasons for his success, but he is a prime example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 02:10 PM) Some guys take a while to get going. I hate to use Batista as an example because I think there are other reasons for his success, but he is a prime example. This guy has legitimately never had a chance to get going in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 01:10 PM) Some guys take a while to get going. I hate to use Batista as an example because I think there are other reasons for his success, but he is a prime example. His success is 100% an example of how coaching can help a professional player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 01:25 PM) Rios just plays the game of baseball very poorly. Throws to wrong bases, doesn't try to advance runners, can't get hits with 2 outs and RISP, and he doesn't hustle. I'm all for benching him or just trading him for another bad contract. That about sums up one Alex Rios in a nutshell. To me he is one of the worst overall baseball players the Sox have had in recent memory. He inspires NO confidence at all. When he gets a hit it's like the worst kid on the little league team actually making contact...you're just happy he didn't spike himself. Alex Rios is by far my most hated player on this team. He is pure garbage. Another in the growing list of Kenny Williams boondoggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 12:13 PM) This guy has legitimately never had a chance to get going in the majors. We know Rios blows and is likely to continue said blowage Daily, we become more fully convinced that Lilli is not a full time player Give the kid a legit chance to show what he can do. Not a whole lot to lose, and now's as good a time as any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 02:28 PM) Daily, we become more fully convinced that Lilli is not a full time player I'm still not convinced of this at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan09 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Some guys take a while to get going. I hate to use Batista as an example because I think there are other reasons for his success, but he is a prime example. Ryan Howard also says hello. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 21, 2011 -> 01:13 PM) This guy has legitimately never had a chance to get going in the majors. I think he could be a decent leadoff man. I think I hated Erstad more than any player the last 10 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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