macsandz Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:04 PM) I thought this was especially interesting considering the current White Sox fan debate over coaching. From espn.com: Cardinals manager Tony La Russa has lost faith in Rasmus, in part for his tendency to use outside coaching help for his hitting. Yeah, well I'd look elsewhere too if my "hitting coach" was history's biggest roid-fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:06 PM) The deal could make the Sox better this year. Right now Rios/Dunn have been bad. If you bring in Rasmus he can play CF (Rios gets more days off) and some days you can have Rios in RF with CQ DH (Dunn gets more days off). You also can try and play match ups more etc. Jackson has definitely been solid, but the Sox need to score more runs consistently if they want to win. +1. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 05:44 PM) Huh? That would be terrible and the final nail in Kenny's coffin. Plus, KW loves Viciedo. Viciedo is going no where. (Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that Dayan & Alexei are our only international signings and now mean so much to this team?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:36 PM) Could the Cards be sold on adding Teahen to the deal? He might thrive under La Russa and in that offense. They really don't have an everyday third basemen. Do you think they will bench Freese for Teahen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Love this, if it happens. Rasmus could turn out to be our CF for the next decade. Question then becomes, how the hell do we get rid of Rios? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 06:01 PM) Plus, KW loves Viciedo. Viciedo is going no where. (Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that Dayan & Alexei are our only international signings and now mean so much to this team?) They aren't our only international signings, just our two "big fish" that we have gotten, unless you count Silverio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I think I'd be in. We have an abundance of left handed relievers and I'd be happy to get something for Jackson. Rasmus has Sizemore-like potential and he showed a lot of it last year. Unfortunately, he seems like a pretty high maintenance guy at the plate, which could translate into bad results here in Chicago, especially if Walker's still the hitting coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 06:10 PM) Love this, if it happens. Rasmus could turn out to be our CF for the next decade. Question then becomes, how the hell do we get rid of Rios? You don't. Nobody's taking that contract. You let him sit on the bench for the rest of the year, this season's lost for him anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 03:46 PM) Jackson and Teahen to the Cards for Rasmus, Quentin and Pierre to Atlanta for Beachy and someone else? If this was the case, I'd be looking forward to next year ALOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 The prospect Cardinals are after is Addison Reed. Check it out on their message boards. Jackson, Thorton, and Reed for Rasmus. I'd try not to give up Reed because I think he will be Thorton's replacement if a trade is done. Reed is too valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 07:51 PM) The prospect Cardinals are after is Addison Reed. Check it out on their message boards. Jackson, Thorton, and Reed for Rasmus. I'd try not to give up Reed because I think he will be Thorton's replacement if a trade is done. Reed is too valuable. Overpayment in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 06:51 PM) The prospect Cardinals are after is Addison Reed. Check it out on their message boards. Jackson, Thorton, and Reed for Rasmus. I'd try not to give up Reed because I think he will be Thorton's replacement if a trade is done. Reed is too valuable. Now that seems a bit much... I think I'll do either Thornton or Reed, but not both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I'd have done Jackson and Thornton for Rasmus, let alone one plus a prospect. That is, of course, as long as the prospect isn't Viciedo. Rasmus would go a long ways to making me happier. Could we also somehow get Dunn and Rios off our hands? Maybe like a fresh start. Would you guys do Jackson or Thornton plus Reed for Rasmus? Cause I probably would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 f*** that and watch Reed become a stud closer for St. Louis a few years down the road? No thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Reed and EJax? I'd do THAT in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Jackson, Thornton, AND Reed? Oh man, that would be a hard one to swallow, but assuming Rasmus can figure it out again, it would be a good trade for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) Hell no to trading Reed unless we get a player back. Thornton sure but I will not trade Reed unless were getting something back to. Edited July 25, 2011 by Baron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 How about Jackson, Thorton, and Rios? I'd do that in a heartbeat to get Rios off the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 06:51 PM) The prospect Cardinals are after is Addison Reed. Check it out on their message boards. Jackson, Thorton, and Reed for Rasmus. I'd try not to give up Reed because I think he will be Thorton's replacement if a trade is done. Reed is too valuable. That's excessive. This franchise is in no position to deal future cost-controlled talent. Reed has been disgusting this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 06:33 PM) That's excessive. This franchise is in no position to deal future cost-controlled talent. Reed has been disgusting this year. I don't want to give up Reed either. That's too steep IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 07:33 PM) That's excessive. This franchise is in no position to deal future cost-controlled talent. Reed has been disgusting this year. Yes, that is totally excessive.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Id like a link to where they were talking about Reed if someone could provide it please. I cant seem to find anyone talking about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 08:31 PM) Jackson, Thornton, AND Reed? Oh man, that would be a hard one to swallow, but assuming Rasmus can figure it out again, it would be a good trade for both teams. That's a moderately big If now though. I mean, 2 years ago, we said about a different talented CF with a bad attitude that "IF he could get it back together he could be a big boon in CF". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I mean if we were going to use Reed as trade bait it would be for a better bat than Rasmus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 24, 2011 -> 07:42 PM) I mean if we were going to use Reed as trade bait it would be for a better bat than Rasmus Let's not kid ourselves with the value that Reed has, he's a RP prospect and those don't have a ton of value except in rare circumstances. He has more value to the Sox than anything, but that doesn't mean you'll get more for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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