southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:00 AM) cst_Cowley cst_Cowley So Toronto dumps a solid reliever to get a bad third baseman and a starter that is done in two months, plus they give a prospect? Interesting take... and probably honest. It's hard to look at this deal in a vacuum and not constantly think of Daniel Hudson. Also, the BS (I called that from the get-go) idea that St. Louis would move Rasmus with Jackson as the main piece also got us all hopped up on crazy. However, the deal is fair as stands, and rather dumb for the Jays if it happens. I hate to agree with Cowardly, but I still don't get this deal from the jays side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:01 AM) What does that even mean? It means attendance still sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 MDGonzales Mark Gonzales De Aza in Sox's lineup, batting 8thr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 De Aza starting in CF for the Sox today...Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Joel Sherman Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman Hear #Whitesox Edwin Jackson to #Bluejays close, but not complete yet because $$ not yet approved and Tor trying to spin him to another team 56 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply Indeed going to be flipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Steve, It doesnt make sense for Toronto, which is why it makes more sense that this leak is nothing but a desperate try for KW to increase the market for Jackson. I have yet to see any angle where this trade makes sense for the Blue Jays. They take on salary, the best piece they obtain is a FA and has Boras as an agent, they really have no chance at the Wild Card or Division. Its not even like Frasoer makes a lot of money so they are trying to offset costs. The only argument has been that the Blue Jays are going to then trade Jackson for something, but youd think the Sox would just cut out the middle man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Sounds like they needed this trade to go through for a roster spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:02 AM) It means attendance still sucked. That I get, but does that mean we "deserve" White Flag II? Once was unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:02 AM) It means attendance still sucked. Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) My issue in this trade is the White Sox are basically wasting Edwin Jackson's value in order to get rid of a bad contract (Teahen). It's why I think this is a pretty bad trade. Also, Ozzie Guillen's favorite family member fails to point out that the "solid reliever" we get is also "done in two months". Because this is Edwin Jackson's value. Compared to picking up a pitcher off the waiver wire, he might be worth at best 2 wins this year, maybe more likely 1. To get that extra win, a team also has to pay a couple million dollars. They get the joy of a sandwich pick in exchange for him as well, but that doesn't net anything for years and may not even happen since the CBA is up this year. Dumping $9 million or so (or $5 m illion if we pick up Frasor's option) Is edwin Jackson's value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:03 AM) MDGonzales Mark Gonzales De Aza in Sox's lineup, batting 8thr QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:03 AM) De Aza starting in CF for the Sox today...Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Lets hope that Rios got released Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Could they DFA Jackson or Teahen to make room on the roster until the trade is complete? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 There HAS to be something else going on here... FWIW, MLBTradeRumors says the Jays are going hard after Wandy Rodriguez as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:05 AM) Could they DFA Jackson or Teahen to make room on the roster until the trade is complete? No, because if a team realized there was demand for either of those players, then someone like the Mariners would just claim them and do the trade themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 If Toronto truly does flip Jackson that could get really interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:04 AM) Its not even like Frasoer makes a lot of money so they are trying to offset costs. The only argument has been that the Blue Jays are going to then trade Jackson for something, but youd think the Sox would just cut out the middle man. Not when uncle Jerry is requiring KW to trim payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) I just saw a tweet saying the deal isnt done because the money isnt finalized yet and the Jays are trying to flip him Edited July 27, 2011 by Baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 08:51 AM) Well since Shack is on a roll with that, someone should see if he'll add another 5 G's to bet in this thread. Hah...as soon as I realized it was Kona, I was more concerned. But I still think that something is getting lost in translation here. This has got to be misinformation. If it's not, and we don't get a premium prospect, and we won't, then I will be finished with this regime and you won't find me defending them any longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Jon Heyman SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman Word is, #bluejays may spin e-jax to #stlcards if get him from #chisox 46 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply Meltdown imminent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 If they flip him for Rasmus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:08 AM) No, because if a team realized there was demand for either of those players, then someone like the Mariners would just claim them and do the trade themselves. DFAing a player only removes them from the roster. He isnt on waivers unless they place him on waivers. At least that's what Wikipedia told me about Designated for assignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman Hear #Whitesox Edwin Jackson to #Bluejays close, but not complete yet because $$ not yet approved and Tor trying to spin him to another team from twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:05 AM) Lets hope that Rios got released Why do people keep acting like this is a possibility? There's no way the Sox can absorb 40+million just to release him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Reposting: Jon Heyman SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman Word is, #bluejays may spin e-jax to #stlcards if get him from #chisox 46 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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