whitesoxfan101 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 09:19 AM) Depends on if they send a prospect with, and who that prospect is. If it's Lawrie, that's one thing. If it's a similar guy to Cooper, I say we march to Kenny's doorsteps. Might as well march there either way. If Kenny could draft and develop a legitimate prospect more than very occasionally, deals like the Rasmus one wouldn't be so hard for us. Edited July 27, 2011 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:19 AM) I swear to God. I love Rasmus so f***ing much, and we're going to help him go to f***ing Toronto. You dont know that. Would you deal Floyd for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:20 AM) It'd have been Jackson + viciedo, I'd bet. And I could see why KW wouldn't do that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 People are saying that De Aza was called up because this trade is done. If the Sox were going to call up anyone it would be a pen arm for 1 day and then send him down to bring up De Aza. The Sox arent trading any OF's there is absolutely no need to call up De Aza if its for this deal. It would be an arm that would be most important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:21 AM) Wow so now everyone is in love with Rasmus? I remember a bunch of people saying his was Rios 2.0. Now were screaming at Kenny because he may not want him? Hey. I've been consistent in my love and praise of his tool set and future studness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:21 AM) You dont know that. Would you deal Floyd for him? In a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:21 AM) Wow so now everyone is in love with Rasmus? I remember a bunch of people saying his was Rios 2.0. Now were screaming at Kenny because he may not want him? We're all scared, diregard almost everything in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:18 AM) We most likely didn't have the prospects to deal for with Jackson. I think its probably Toronto who called KW for Jackson just so they can deal him out. We couldnt get Miguel Cabrera because we didnt have too much in the farm. Now we have a player we might covet but have to watch another team walk away with him because once again our farm is bare. Its about time for the sox to have a self evaluation on our strategy for amateur talent aquisition and proper development. The good to great teams now all spend money on draft picks, the international free agency period and their development. We treat it like its some nuisance. Its not just about developing players for your major league team its about developing players that other teams covet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:21 AM) Might as well march there either way. If Kenny could draft and develop a legitimate prospect more than very occasionally, deals like the Rasmus one wouldn't be so hard for us. We've developed a lot of legit prospects the last 4 years. We've just traded most ofthem away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:22 AM) The Sox arent trading any OF's there is absolutely no need to call up De Aza if its for this deal. It would be an arm that would be most important. They have him in the lineup today, something HAS to happen by 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Looks like a 3 team trade, Cards get EJAX, Toronto gets Rasmus, we ger Frasor. Beatnik tweeting: SOX ARE NOT trading John Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:22 AM) People are saying that De Aza was called up because this trade is done. If the Sox were going to call up anyone it would be a pen arm for 1 day and then send him down to bring up De Aza. The Sox arent trading any OF's there is absolutely no need to call up De Aza if its for this deal. It would be an arm that would be most important. They are trading Teahen, that is De Aza's roster spot. Teahen played some RF. And there isn't a giant need for a backup 3B when Omar is still on the team and can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:18 AM) There are quite a few contenders in on Frasor, he may not be staying here. Has there been any talk about this? If so, I wonder who KW might target...or would it be prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 09:23 AM) We've developed a lot of legit prospects the last 4 years. We've just traded most ofthem away. If you can trade basically all of your legitimate prospects in a 4 year span, you're not developing many of them unless you're making an insane amount of trade. And we're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:22 AM) People are saying that De Aza was called up because this trade is done. If the Sox were going to call up anyone it would be a pen arm for 1 day and then send him down to bring up De Aza. The Sox arent trading any OF's there is absolutely no need to call up De Aza if its for this deal. It would be an arm that would be most important. The White Sox's bullpen has the same number of arms in it post-deal that it had in it pre-deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) Looks like a 3 team trade, Cards get EJAX, Toronto gets Rasmus, we ger Frasor. Beatnik tweeting: SOX ARE NOT trading John Danks. Bolded is your opinion, or do you have that from somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) Looks like a 3 team trade, Cards get EJAX, Toronto gets Rasmus, we ger Frasor. Beatnik tweeting: SOX ARE NOT trading John Danks. Huh? What have I missed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) Looks like a 3 team trade, Cards get EJAX, Toronto gets Rasmus, we ger Frasor. Beatnik tweeting: SOX ARE NOT trading John Danks. And who's out in the cold in that trade..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 guys lol, its obvious we didnt have the pieces for Rasmus and the blue jays are most likely tossing in a top prospect with ejax for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Jackson and Teahen not on the roster card today, according to Cowley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:22 AM) Hey. I've been consistent in my love and praise of his tool set and future studness. Yeah I wasnt directing that at you just a few others in here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) We couldnt get Miguel Cabrera because we didnt have too much in the farm. Now we have a player we might covet but have to watch another team walk away with him because once again our farm is bare. Its about time for the sox to have a self evaluation on our strategy for amateur talent aquisition and proper development. The good to great teams now all spend money on draft picks, the international free agency period and their development. We treat it like its some nuisance. Its not just about developing players for your major league team its about developing players that other teams covet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman #stlcasrds targeting e-jax (plus others) for rasmus. So they want him. Deal could happen w/i day. Big powwows now. #tradedeadline Why couldn't we get this done? Instead we choose a 33 year old reliever?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Are people really freaking out that the Jays will flip Jackson + Teahen for Rasmus? ...if they flip them for Rasmus I'd put it at about 1000% that they also include one of their top prospects which the Sox don't have any of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) Looks like a 3 team trade, Cards get EJAX, Toronto gets Rasmus, we ger Frasor. Beatnik tweeting: SOX ARE NOT trading John Danks. The Sox are idiots if they are not thinking about trading Danks. Blow it all the way up if you must. Time to get some good prospects. Kyle Drabek better be coming through that door with Jason Frasor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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