bmags Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:59 PM) Also, someone tell me why I should sell the farm for an OF that has 1000 PA, mediocre power, run production, batting average, etc. that also is a below average fielder according to UZR? Yeah, toronto really sold the farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:56 AM) one person mentions colby rasmus and all of the sudden the entire board, most which had little to no idea who Rasmus even WAS goes apes***, lol group think mob mentality here at Soxtalk I agree people are overvaluing Rasmus here, but I think it shows how little of value KW got for Jackson. He got nothing but salary relief for an earlier mistake, when he could have had a player with high potential that could have at least been easily moved. I am shocked so many are alright with this. I feel like the team took a step in the wrong direction and the same reactionary person may cause more damage soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:59 PM) On this board? More than 90 percent, I guarantee that. He wasn't on the 2005 Sox team, so don't be so sure of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:55 PM) Jays fans are probably pretty excited about getting Rasmus. However this will certainly die back down when they realize they have zero shot at winning their division or even making the playoffs any time soon. I know the feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 12:00 PM) Wouldn't be so sure about that one. One more playoff team is added next season. And serious talks about the removal of divisions and possible realignment, mean good news for Jays. That bodes well for Sox too as they dont have to face the Central as much. So speculating that an entire realign doesnt happen, they are still not making the playoffs. Better record than us this year and 13 games back in 4th place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (shakes @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 06:00 PM) I agree people are overvaluing Rasmus here, but I think it shows how little of value KW got for Jackson. He got nothing but salary relief for an earlier mistake, when he could have had a player with high potential that could have at least been easily moved. I am shocked so many are alright with this. I feel like the team took a step in the wrong direction and the same reactionary person may cause more damage soon. I like the deal cause it gets Teahen off the books, but like you said, it's all reactionary to make up for previous transactions that didn't work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:59 PM) Also, someone tell me why I should sell the farm for an OF that has 1000 PA, mediocre power, run production, batting average, etc. that also is a below average fielder according to UZR? Toronto pretty clearly gave up spare parts. Good spare parts, but nothing critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:56 AM) one person mentions colby rasmus and all of the sudden the entire board, most which had little to no idea who Rasmus even WAS goes apes***, lol group think mob mentality here at Soxtalk Does that include you?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:56 AM) one person mentions colby rasmus and all of the sudden the entire board, most which had little to no idea who Rasmus even WAS goes apes***, lol group think mob mentality here at Soxtalk But you did, no doubt. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyuen Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:59 AM) Also, someone tell me why I should sell the farm for an OF that has 1000 PA, mediocre power, run production, batting average, etc. that also is a below average fielder according to UZR? you will understand in two years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Having a former Saluki join the Sox is never a bad thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:59 AM) Also, someone tell me why I should sell the farm for an OF that has 1000 PA, mediocre power, run production, batting average, etc. that also is a below average fielder according to UZR? Because white sox management and fans don't know what a legit prospect looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Real @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 12:56 PM) one person mentions colby rasmus and all of the sudden the entire board, most which had little to no idea who Rasmus even WAS goes apes***, lol group think mob mentality here at Soxtalk Wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 12:02 PM) Does that include you?? More than half of my friends are cardinals fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:55 AM) Jays fans are probably pretty excited about getting Rasmus. However this will certainly die back down when they realize they have zero shot at winning their division or even making the playoffs any time soon. Please. Tampa has won two of the last three division titles in that same division. Toronto is coming. They have the best GM in baseball and a WAVE of talent on the horizon. Edited July 27, 2011 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 12:05 PM) Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson. Zoinks. Ok..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Ben Badler Alex Anthopoulos just bought a Cadillac for the price of a Dodge Neon 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply Edited July 27, 2011 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 06:05 PM) Colby Rasmus, Trever Miller, Brian Tallet and P.J. Walters for Jackson, Marc Rzepczynski, Dotel and Corey Patterson. That looks like a Playstation trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 So Toronto got Rasmus for Frasor, Stewart, Patterson, Dotel and Rzepczynski Hell of a deal by AA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:46 AM) Wow, I take it back. I was reading something else. I thought Asher Wojciechowski was involved. As that is what I read at a Blue Jays site. Yeah, we dropped the ball here. I'm f***ing shocked. I'm taking a break from this team. Feel free to adopt my signature. This is a crock of s***. Where are you badger? I thought Viciedo had to be included? Jackson, Thornton, and Reed and this gets done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 f*** Man, this is SO frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:09 PM) Feel free to adopt my signature. This is a crock of s***. Where are you badger? I thought Viciedo had to be included? Jackson, Thornton, and Reed and this gets done. Clearing Teahen's contract was more important than acquiring talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphat007 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 12:09 PM) So Toronto got Rasmus for Frasor, Stewart, Patterson, Dotel and Rzepczynski Hell of a deal by AA And a s*** ton of money, which was the major part of our deal, whether people like it or not. $$$$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:09 AM) So Toronto got Rasmus for Frasor, Stewart, Patterson, Dotel and Rzepczynski Hell of a deal by AA And they also had to pay $10 million (money owed to Teahen and he will never contribute to that team) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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