bigruss Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:39 AM) Oh, its not over yet. If there is a loss posted today, I wouldnt be surprised to see Thornton on his way out the door as well. Posters need to listen to you and DocSox more. It actually makes a lot of sense, replace Thornton next year with Frasor as 7/8th inning guy or trade both (as they will both be in high demand for teams competing now). I see plenty of moves following this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:40 PM) I would also like to thank Edwin for contributing to my alcohol abuse with his painful to sit through 120 pitch clusterf***s that forced me to drink even more to compensate for excessive boredom. Good riddance. Jackson, in his time with the Sox, has an ERA of 3.66 and an ERA+ of 114. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:40 AM) Yeah thats great but they actually do some good believe it or not. Having a playing that just wings it because he doesnt give a damn is not what we need right now. Hes not just winging it, he uses an outside hitting coach, like a former White Sox great used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:42 PM) Thank you Adam Dunn and Alex Rios for ruining what could have been a magical year on the south side. And yet we're stuck with them the next few seasons without having financial flexibility to improve the team. We're f***ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal Source: Money appears only holdup in 3-team deal that would send EJax to #Cardinals, Rasmus to #BlueJays. MORE #WhiteSox #tradedeadline #MLB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:42 AM) Thank you Adam Dunn and Alex Rios for ruining what could have been a magical year on the south side. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:41 AM) 3-5 more. The players have no one to blame but themselves. Ozzie and Kenny gave them 4 months and nothing has changed. It's time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 08:38 AM) **goes to peak at the "In or Out" thread to look at the additional "Out" votes** I'm delighted to see mark teahen no longer wearing a sox uni but trading EJAX, our 2nd best pitcher this season, says we're not in this to win it. Might as well keep dumping now. Too bad Konerko had to re-sign to be part of Ken Williams' worthless vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Who has more value, Frasor or Crain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:40 AM) Yeah thats great but they actually do some good believe it or not. Having a playing that just wings it because he doesnt give a damn is not what we need right now. Well not to entirely put out Rasmus, but La Russa's hate for Rasmus is that he goes to outside sources for hitting, atleast he goes out to other sources and wants to get better unlike Rios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 "All In" team to White Flag Part II....yet Kenny and Ozzie still have their jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:42 AM) Yes, clearly this one deal is what I'm referring to, and not the many, many awful deals that have cost JR piles of cash and lead to this final punting of value that is Edwin Jackson. Claim Alex Rios - big cash. f***. Trade Daniel Hudson - Get a known commodity in Edwin Jackson trying to force hand of Washington to trade you player you actually want in Adam Dunn. Claim MANNY RAMIREZ - one month. one homer. $5 mill. f***. Give away Edwin Jackson to get rid of another AWFUL, POINTLESS contract extension in Mark Teahen. This is just a very very very very very small segment of KW's persistent incompetence. Out of that list, the only move I wouldn't have called a decent gamble is the Hudson trade. At least to my eyes, that's going to go down as the single worst deal of KW's tenure here. Unless both of the guys we gave up blow their arms out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal Source: Money appears only holdup in 3-team deal that would send EJax to #Cardinals, Rasmus to #BlueJays. MORE #WhiteSox #tradedeadline #MLB End my f***ing life. We could have had Colby Rasmus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:42 AM) Yes, clearly this one deal is what I'm referring to, and not the many, many awful deals that have cost JR piles of cash and lead to this final punting of value that is Edwin Jackson. Claim Alex Rios - big cash. f***. Trade Daniel Hudson - Get a known commodity in Edwin Jackson trying to force hand of Washington to trade you player you actually want in Adam Dunn. Claim MANNY RAMIREZ - one month. one homer. $5 mill. f***. Give away Edwin Jackson to get rid of another AWFUL, POINTLESS contract extension in Mark Teahen. This is just a very very very very very small segment of KW's persistent incompetence. haha, man you need a drink. Calm the hell down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Sure as f*** seems like Toronto is getting Rasmus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:44 AM) Who has more value, Frasor or Crain? Crain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:44 AM) "All In" team to White Flag Part II....yet Kenny and Ozzie still have their jobs? Love the accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:42 AM) Jackson, in his time with the Sox, has an ERA of 3.66 and an ERA+ of 114. He's been mediocre this year. The numbers don't match up with the stuff. He's extremely inefficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:43 AM) Hes not just winging it, he uses an outside hitting coach, like a former White Sox great used to. and he is clearly thriving..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Today just makes me even more upset about ever trading for Edwin. He wasn't even an upgrade over what we had, and everybody knew he'd gone after after 2011 at the latest. Now, he's gone at the deadline for a rental relief pitcher. At least Teahen is leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 11:44 AM) I'm delighted to see mark teahen no longer wearing a sox uni but trading EJAX, our 2nd best pitcher this season, says we're not in this to win it. Might as well keep dumping now. Too bad Konerko had to re-sign to be part of Ken Williams' worthless vision. Edwin Jackson has been the Sox's 2nd best pitcher this season? At best he's been the team's 3rd best starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Thornton makes: 5.5 in 2012 5.5 in 2013 and 6M in 2014 (option) Frasor makes less this year and possibly less moving forward. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Toronto loves Kenny. We take their overpriced s***ty OF and then give them Colby Rasmus, basically. I'm done with the Sox for a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:42 AM) Yes, clearly this one deal is what I'm referring to, and not the many, many awful deals that have cost JR piles of cash and lead to this final punting of value that is Edwin Jackson. Claim Alex Rios - big cash. f***. Trade Daniel Hudson - Get a known commodity in Edwin Jackson trying to force hand of Washington to trade you player you actually want in Adam Dunn. Claim MANNY RAMIREZ - one month. one homer. $5 mill. f***. Give away Edwin Jackson to get rid of another AWFUL, POINTLESS contract extension in Mark Teahen. This is just a very very very very very small segment of KW's persistent incompetence. You forgot the inexplicable extension to Teahen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxMatt Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:45 AM) He's been mediocre this year. The numbers don't match up with the stuff. He's extremely inefficient. See Javy's career!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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