southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 01:21 PM) Someone made a great point earlier...Reinsdorf clearly respects the opinion of TLR. If TLR told him that Rasmus is uncoachable, then no way would JR bring in another sketchy personality after the Rios debacle. Real good point. Plus if tony is having problems with him would oz do any better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 02:10 PM) I have little problem with Rios still getting some platoon at bats. As much money as he's getting paid, we almost have to play him. It is more about the length, he is under our control until 2014. He won't sit on the bench for 3 years making that much so it is in the Sox best interest to have Rios regain confidence and play better or we have what the Giants have in Rowand. A high priced player wasting away on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 01:21 PM) Zach Stewart better be something, or else we basically gave up Dan Hudson for Jason Frasor... This deal is KW cleaning up his own mess. Hudson and Stewart are almost identical in where they were in their careers when they were traded. Hopefully the results are similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 02:23 PM) Hudson and Stewart are almost identical in where they were in their careers when they were traded. Hopefully the results are similar. Except huddy was younger with more minor league (although brief) domination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:24 PM) Except huddy was younger with more minor league (although brief) domination. Weird thing about judging Stewart appears to be the fact that the Reds put him in the bullpen for most of his first 2 seasons. No one really committed to him as a starter until AA took over in Toronto. They made the decision, stuck with it while he struggled for 2 months with an ERA over 6, then he snapped off a good enough rest of the season to push his ERA down below 4 for the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:28 PM) Weird thing about judging Stewart appears to be the fact that the Reds put him in the bullpen for most of his first 2 seasons. No one really committed to him as a starter until AA took over in Toronto. They made the decision, stuck with it while he struggled for 2 months with an ERA over 6, then he snapped off a good enough rest of the season to push his ERA down below 4 for the year. An article said that was to limit innings initially Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 02:24 PM) Except huddy was younger with more minor league (although brief) domination. And much higher rated than Hudson was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Why would the White Sox want Trever Miller? Even if you trade Ohman or Thronton, you'd still have Sale and the one not traded. There's no room on the roster for him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:29 PM) An article said that was to limit innings initially They really didn't seem to know what to do with him though. They sorta kept him in the bullpen because he was there. Call it the "Chris Sale" treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 And while I am patting myself on the back like a jackass... I was also right about why teahen was playing all of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:36 PM) And while I am patting myself on the back like a jackass... I was also right about why teahen was playing all of the time. Yup. Great to see Brent Morel back in the lineup todaaaaaaa...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) I'll just say that we might have been able to get more for Jackson, but this deal (ignoring the possibility to land Rasmus instead) is pretty decent. We rid ourselves of the garbage that is Teahen and apparently Frasor is a type B, which offsets losing the picks for Jackson. And I believe Frasor even has a club option for next season if we choose to hold onto him. Edited July 27, 2011 by Milkman delivers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:39 PM) I'll just say that we might have been able to get more for Jackson, but this deal (ignoring the possibility to land Rasmus instead) is pretty decent. We rid ourselves of the garbage that is Teahen and apparently Frasor is a type B, which offsets losing the picks for Jackson. And I believe Frasor even has a club option for next season if we choose to hold onto him. Yes, he has a $3.5 million option last year. If the Sox decline his option and offer arbitration, his figure for this year is $2.65 million. He ought to be able to beat that in FA...unless they're dismantling or he puts up an ERA of 7 with Chicago I'd expect that option picked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 02:37 PM) Yup. Great to see Brent Morel back in the lineup todaaaaaaa...... The funny part is that I told you that Omar would be the starter if morel had been benched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:47 PM) The funny part is that I told you that Omar would be the starter if morel had been benched. Of course. Prospects develop best on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtsoxfan Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Cardinals trade Rasmus for pitchers Jackson, Dotel http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-three-teamtrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I don't think Miller is going to the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 02:54 PM) I don't think Miller is going to the White Sox. I could care less either way. He is just a throw-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 LOL so basicly we get frasor for teabag and Jackson when we could have had Rasmus? Ohhh Kenny LOL! Wonder what the moron says now. Frasor ain't bad but Kenny went with the first trade, we could have held Jackson a lil longer and teams would have gotten desperate and gotten more.... Ohh the life of a sox fan.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:16 PM) LOL so basicly we get frasor for teabag and Jackson when we could have had Rasmus? Ohhh Kenny LOL! Wonder what the moron says now. Frasor ain't bad but Kenny went with the first trade, we could have held Jackson a lil longer and teams would have gotten desperate and gotten more.... Ohh the life of a sox fan.... Yup. You hit the nail on the head 100% Ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 01:16 PM) LOL so basicly we get frasor for teabag and Jackson when we could have had Rasmus? Ohhh Kenny LOL! Wonder what the moron says now. Frasor ain't bad but Kenny went with the first trade, we could have held Jackson a lil longer and teams would have gotten desperate and gotten more.... Ohh the life of a sox fan.... Jackson for Rasmus? Not from what I've heard. Even if you do get Rasmus and trade Quentin - you're looking at an outfield of Viciedo - Rasmus - Rios. I don't think the Sox liked Rasmus because of his reported issues and because we have 4 outfields as it stands now. Rios sucking really bleeped us this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Cardinals fans after learning of their return for Rasmus: Now, watch St. Louis go the World Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:25 PM) Jackson for Rasmus? Not from what I've heard. Even if you do get Rasmus and trade Quentin - you're looking at an outfield of Viciedo - Rasmus - Rios. I don't think the Sox liked Rasmus because of his reported issues and because we have 4 outfields as it stands now. Rios sucking really bleeped us this year. What do you mean? That's what basicly happend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:33 PM) What do you mean? That's what basicly happend No it's not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyLawRules Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Draft notes on Stewart: Draft notes on Stewart: http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/ev....jsp?mc=stewart Focus Area Comments Fastball: Stewart showed plus, plus velocity, throwing his fastball in the 95-97 mph range. Fastball movement: It had plus life as well. Slider: He showed a slider that was average-to-plus and threw it with good deception. Control: He had plus command, particularly of his fastball. Poise: He has a closer mentality, very aggressive and going right after hitters. Physical Description: Stewart isn't all that big, but he's strong-bodied and his stuff plays big as does his bulldog mentality. Medical Update: Healthy. Strengths: Two plus power pitches and command of both of them. He has the right demeanor to be a closer. Weaknesses: Having played at three colleges in three years, there's no real track record. Summary: College closers have become all the rage lately, with some getting drafted early every year. Stewart could be in that group in 2008. The Texas Tech reliever relies on a plus fastball and slider and commands both power offerings well. He's got the kind of makeup you want in a short reliever, a guy who is very aggressive and goes right after hitters. The stuff plus the mentality could push Stewart into early-round consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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