ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 WINNER! DE AZA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Sale seems to be staying out there longer and longer now.... That can't be a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:00 PM) Q + Danks + Thornton = what, $14 million? Rios DFA = $42 million? Q and Danks will each be around $8M next year, Thornton is signed for what the next two years? $12M? Then throw in the $10M in savings today. $16M + $12M + $10M = $28M. So, you're still eating $14M, but today showed, No Rios = Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:01 PM) Are you an alcoholic? Nope....is that a prerequisite to post on this board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:00 PM) I still think you may see Rios traded before the end of the season Dude, there's no f***ing way. He's harder to deal than Alfonso Soriano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:02 PM) Q and Danks will each be around $8M next year, Thornton is signed for what the next two years? $12M? Then throw in the $10M in savings today. $16M + $12M + $10M = $28M. So, you're still eating $14M, but today showed, No Rios = Good. You can't count next year's cost savings there. Basically, cutting Rios would require this team pull back in Payroll to $90 million next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:03 PM) Dude, there's no f***ing way. He's harder to deal than Alfonso Soriano. Obama will help us. It's the main sticking point of the debt ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:03 PM) Dude, there's no f***ing way. He's harder to deal than Alfonso Soriano. Not so sure about that. They are probably equally hard with Rios possibly being a little easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:57 PM) If KW dumps Q/Danks/Thornton for cost controlled talent, Rios will be DFA'd. Considering teams can still fall in love with his potential and tool set, I'd feel pretty confident either a trade involving an equally bad contract coming back or us picking up at least 75% of his contract could still happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 05:04 PM) Not so sure about that. They are probably equally hard with Rios possibly being a little easier. I'd say the Cubs are a lot more likely to eat salary on Soriano than the Sox would be with Rios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 02:02 PM) Is that a prerequisite to post on this board? No, but continuing to assert a Rios trade makes your potential alcoholism suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Good lord Sarah Kustak is awful. The same question every time. "What was going through your mind when you _____ " Just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:03 PM) You can't count next year's cost savings there. Basically, cutting Rios would require this team pull back in Payroll to $90 million next year. I'm counting any years Rios is signed. Also, he is hence forth known as AlbatRios again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:04 PM) I'd say the Cubs are a lot more likely to eat salary on Soriano than the Sox would be with Rios. Maybe, but all things considered, Sorianos contract is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:04 PM) Not so sure about that. They are probably equally hard with Rios possibly being a little easier. .555 OPS vs .733 It's not even close. Rios is utterly useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:03 PM) Dude, there's no f***ing way. He's harder to deal than Alfonso Soriano. That could be your deal. Before the Sox just eat the contract, I think they'll trade him for another underperforming, overpaid player elsewhere in the league. You might as well take a chance and see if a change of scenery for someone can make a difference before eating all that money. Similar to what the Sox did in the Borchard for Thornton trade....just on a larger scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:06 PM) That could be your deal. Before the Sox just eat the contract, I think they'll trade him for another underperforming, overpaid player elsewhere in the league. You might as well take a chance and see if a change of scenery for someone can make a difference before eating all that money. Similar to what the Sox did in the Borchard for Thornton trade....just on a larger scale. Do you even realize how awful Rios is? No one is even close to being that bad. Why in God's name would anyone want him on their roster? He is worse at the plate than most NL pitchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiguy79 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Soriano is a DH and breaking down, much smaller market for him. Both are untradeable so not worth arguing over. DE AZA + PITCHING = WINS... Would have been nice to take all three, but the Ozzie likes to handicap us one game a series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:05 PM) .555 OPS vs .733 It's not even close. Rios is utterly useless. Yes, when you compare that one stat. But you also take into mind their age, defensive ability and actual dollars involved in their contracts. Rios has 3 years at roughly 12.5 per and Soriano has 3 years at 18 million per. Thats 15 million dollars more to take on an aging, broken down crappy DH. Edited July 27, 2011 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I wonder if it is at all possible to make a Rios and a prospect for Uggla. Uggla's power numbers haven't been terrible this year, but his average is only slightly better than Dunn. I don't know if the Braves are ready to give up on him yet considering the contract they gave him. However, I do know the Braves are looking for some speed in the OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) Pitching change for the third out. I am always worried we are messing with success in these situations. But, I guess it has been succesful too Herman Franks use to do it all the time when he had Bruce Sutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 If the Mariners hadn't of cut Milton Bradley earlier in the year, that could have been your deal for Rios. It's a player in a situation like Soriano or where Bradley was earlier in the year that I expect a deal to happen for at some point. It's two teams just moving dead weight. Balance out the dollars and see if the change of scenery does anything for either player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 04:09 PM) Yes, when you compare that one stat. But you also take into mind their age, defensive ability and actual dollars involved in their contracts. Rios has 3 years at roughly 12.5 per and Soriano has 3 years at 18 million per. Thats 15 million dollars more to take on an aging, broken down crappy DH. Not saying I'd want Soriano but Rios might be the worst hitter in baseball. No contact, no power, doesn't run to first. How can anyone think a team would be interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 03:01 PM) Are you an alcoholic? We just need one that's a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Hey maybe the Angels need another crappy, overpaid outfielder. MMMWhatcha say Arte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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