WCSox Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 09:29 AM) I didn't say forfeit the series were it to come to fruition. I'm just giving my opinion on what I think would happen without letting my White Sox fandom influence me. Sorry, I misunderstood you then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 It's clear to me in a five-game series, you go Danks-Humber-Buehrle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:30 AM) Biggest understatement ever. We have one of the worst offenses in baseball. At least in 2005 we were middle of the pack. I mean come on, it's a struggle to get 2 or 3 runs on most nights. Actually we are about in the middle of the pack Offensively this year. 16 out of 30 in BA, lower in runs. Since the all star break we are incredibly inferior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:32 AM) It's clear to me in a five-game series, you go Danks-Humber-Buehrle. +1. IN fact Peavy goes to the pen in the playoffs IMO. Danks-Humber-Buehrle-Floyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:32 AM) Actually we are about in the middle of the pack Offensively this year. 16 out of 30 in BA, lower in runs. Since the all star break we are incredibly inferior. You can't go by all MLB though since we play with a DH (who really might as well be a pitcher). In the AL, we are 12/14 based on runs. Edited July 29, 2011 by maggsmaggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:29 AM) You don't need a "stopper" to win a championship. You simply need effective pitching. And, yes, I believe that Peavy can be an effective #4 in a 7-game series. With the way Danks is pitching now, he is a stopper. And he is a guy who pitches well in high-pressured games. He is the anti-Gavin Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Don't feel like wading through this ongoing playoff discussion to search, but has their been any relevant Quentin news or rumors today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:33 AM) You can't go by all MLB though since we play with a DH (who really might as well be a pitcher). In the AL, we are 12/14. We were one of the worst teams in baseball in July offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:29 AM) Mark is not due for a setback. He may have one, but he is not due. Mark has been one of baseball's best pitchers the last decade for a reason, and this year, he is getting ample rest. The rest I agree with you on, though. And if you look at his history over the last five years, he most definitely is due for a setback. I hope he keeps this streak of quality starts going, but chances are he'll have a few starts in a row where he gets beat up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:34 AM) With the way Danks is pitching now, he is a stopper. And he is a guy who pitches well in high-pressured games. He is the anti-Gavin Floyd. Yes, if Danks keeps this up the remainder of the year then I'd feel a little more confident. He's looked terrific his last couple starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 09:35 AM) We were one of the worst teams in baseball in July offensively. And if Dunn and Rios begin to hit anywhere near the career averages down the stretch, we'll be a respectable offense again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:22 AM) How many starters do you need in a best of 5? Only 3. And I haven't heard anything about Buchholz not coming back. So they have one stud pitcher, one great pitcher who has struggled against the White Sox, and yes, Buchholz's back is starting to be a major concern. Unless they trade for a 3rd starter (which they probably will), it's not the most dangerous rotation in the world. No one is picking the White Sox to win the series or saying that they should be favored. But it is just a 5-game series, not a 162-game season, and the White Sox do have the pitching to at least compete with Boston. I think the BoSox huge offensive advantage would probably win them the series, but that's no guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjshoe04 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:37 AM) And if Dunn and Rios begin to hit anywhere near the career averages down the stretch, we'll be a respectable offense again. It's not going to happen. I can still see Dunn getting better but Rios is a lost cause. Frankly, I'm hoping De Aza goes on a magical run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (WCSox @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:37 AM) And if Dunn and Rios begin to hit anywhere near the career averages down the stretch, we'll be a respectable offense again. If I had a dollar for every time this sentence has been repeated I could buy my favorite pornstar (Lorena Sanchez) for one night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 @SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman word is, #astros dont love #phillies prospects (maybe not even brown). this is becoming real soap opera. #youngandrestless We'll take them Philly, come here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:01 AM) I realize its an inflammatory thing to say...just feels like we are going to win just enough to make it close and flame out...Sorry for being so negative and cynical If I was Williams, trading Quentin would be a risk I'd be willing to take. Not only considering the possible return package, but my own job security. Figure, if nothing is done and we don't make the playoffs, it could be his end. If this trade is done and we still miss the playoffs, nothing changes, he'll still on the block. It wouldn't matter either way if he truly believes this team isn't fit to win the division. I have to believe those in charge are smarter than the mopes filling the stands. No one should be frightened with trading a sought after commodity because of random people suggesting "white flag" or an attendance drop. Many here are just afraid of a different approach. They'd rather every season follow the same formula of always believing they're in it (aside from 07') and whatever happens in September happens. We'll just try it all over again. I'm sure Williams knows how this script will go, even if we're within striking distance of first. Edited July 29, 2011 by Flash Tizzle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:39 AM) It's not going to happen. I can still see Dunn getting better but Rios is a lost cause. Frankly, I'm hoping De Aza goes on a magical run. Dunn has been picking it up and giving us better at bats, Rios sucks balls. Looking at the sortable team stats for the Sox makes me feel sick to my stomach. This is a prime reason why we need to unload Quentin for some young talent. This team as constructed is just not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:40 AM) @SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman word is, #astros dont love #phillies prospects (maybe not even brown). this is becoming real soap opera. #youngandrestless We'll take them Philly, come here! Somebody needs to remind Ed Wade that he's horrible and that franchise is by far the most pathetic in baseball. That original Phillies package of Cowart, Singelton and another high upside prospect was a pretty damn good offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:44 AM) Somebody needs to remind Ed Wade that he's horrible and that franchise is by far the most pathetic in baseball. That original Phillies package of Cowart, Singelton and another high upside prospect was a pretty damn good offer. Hopefully the Phils get pissed, call KW and offer Brown+ and we take it. That would be ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 05:39 PM) If I had a dollar for every time this sentence has been repeated I could buy my favorite pornstar (Lorena Sanchez) for one night. Prior to this season, Dunn was one of the most consistent hitters in baseball. It's not ridiculous to expect him to turn it around, once and if his BABIP ever returns to career norms. Looking at his numbers, it's just impossible to explain why he's been this bad. I know I expect him to turn it around any day now. I've said that all season and I'll keep saying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:46 AM) Hopefully the Phils get pissed, call KW and offer Brown+ and we take it. That would be ridiculous. With you 100% there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:47 AM) With you 100% there. Shooting out a text as we speak, see if there is any action today on that front.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 11:46 AM) Prior to this season, Dunn was one of the most consistent hitters in baseball. It's not ridiculous to expect him to turn it around, once and if his BABIP ever returns to career norms. Looking at his numbers, it's just impossible to explain why he's been this bad. I know I expect him to turn it around any day now. I've said that all season and I'll keep saying it. It's not unprecedented for a player around his age to just lose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 QUOTE (Sockin @ Jul 29, 2011 -> 10:40 AM) @SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman word is, #astros dont love #phillies prospects (maybe not even brown). this is becoming real soap opera. #youngandrestless We'll take them Philly, come here! Yes, apparently the 'Stros would rather trade Pence to Atlanta and get their hands on some of that minor league pitching talent that they have. The road block on everything at this moment appears to be Atlanta's reluctance to part with those pitching prospects. And that's discouraging, because if Houston cannot convince them to include those players in a package for Pence, it's going to be even more difficult for KW to convince the Braves to part with them for Quentin. Meanwhile, Philadelphia appears to remain a lot more liberal in terms of what they are willing to deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 So, lets say Pence goes to ATL for some pitching. We then have: Phils Red Sox Reds in the mix for Quentin. The Reds have some catching prospects that interest me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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