max power Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 11:47 PM) It's just the way Rosenthal worded his tweet that makes it sound like KW just realized that trading Jackson thinned out his starting staff. That's ridiculous. QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 11:49 PM) Yeah this idea must have been festering in Kenny's mind for some time. This just didnt come up today. I agree with all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 If we need another starter...then I'd say try for this young kid Dan Hudson in Arizona...looks like he has the makeup to be a pretty special pitcher. Wonder if Kenny is thinking about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (MAX @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 11:49 PM) No. That is what was suggested by you: Hah Yeah Rosenthal worded it that way. But after thinking about it thats not the case. So is my opinion your opinion now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 11:47 PM) It's just the way Rosenthal worded his tweet that makes it sound like KW just realized that trading Jackson thinned out his starting staff. That's ridiculous. I actually agree, there's just no way in hell Kenny thought all was fine and dandy until the 5th inning of today's game. He has some sort of convoluted plan afoot here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 11:51 PM) Hah Yeah Rosenthal worded it that way. But after thinking about it thats not the case. So is my opinion your opinion now? If the sox are looking for a starter, its as you said. I guess its that part of the rumor that suggests kenny was a mindless idiot who flipped back and forth that I found unbelievable. Edited July 31, 2011 by MAX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (MAX @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 11:52 PM) If the sox are looking for a starter, its as you said. I guess its that part of the rumor that suggests kenny was a mindless idiot who flipped back and forth that I found unbelievable. Yeah and after thinking about it thats silly like I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 So all I get from this is that KW wants Beachy or a similar pitcher in return for Quentin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It would be ridiculous for Jerry to let Kenny try to add anything to this team. Jerry should be insisting that he start unloading. This team wasn't going to win the division before Detroit and Cleveland loaded up on talent. Now, there is no chance that this lifeless team of dogs is suddenly going to miraculously and inexplicably catch fire for the next 2 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Rios for Lowe. Do it now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 For Sean Lowe maybe...or Rick White. Forget Derek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Yeah, Kenny said he wasn't going to do anything last July 31st, and what do ya know, 10 minutes before the deadline, he snags Edwin Jackson, and almost Dunn. Kenny uses the media for smoke and mirrors ALL THE TIME. Don't believe anything he says when it comes to trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 12:58 AM) So all I get from this is that KW wants Beachy or a similar pitcher in return for Quentin. They're not dealing Quentin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 If there is no trade announced tomorrow after the game (Buehrle pitching) I will harm something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) If the sox did add a SP via trade, maybe their old friends in KC would be a fit with Bruce Chen. Nothing great, but he'd eat innings, which is what the sox would need to keep Peavy, Humber and Mark all fresh. Chen projects as a type B FA. With him making only $2 mill, the sox could offer him ARB. Not sure what the asking price would be. KC writer says teams are calling about Francis, Chen and Davies and expect to deal. Chen got lit up vs. BOS last outing, but had done well prior to that. http://twitter.com/#!/Royals_Report/st...445061008175105 The sox still play KC 10 more games, with 3 more series vs. them. You figure Chen could get 3 starts vs. the Sox. They certainly haven't done well vs. him, only getting 2 runs in 14 innings. Those 3 games could be huge going down the stretch. Edited July 31, 2011 by beck72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 11:04 PM) Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal #WhiteSox seeking rotation depth. Traded Jackson to save money, now concerned they're too thin. #tradedeadline #MLB Whats Kenny up to I don't think he just realized this was a potenial issue. Saying that, if they do add a pitcher, it may just be a long reliever from the bullpen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosox41 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 30, 2011 -> 11:04 PM) Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal #WhiteSox seeking rotation depth. Traded Jackson to save money, now concerned they're too thin. #tradedeadline #MLB Whats Kenny up to is Captain Chaos back? I assume he's trying to get more for Quentin and/or Thornton but I don't think he has the testicular fortitude to trade them now. They aren't going to get a great deal and the fans will revolt (more then they already have.) Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 KW is losing faith in Humber and after the fifth inning last night, I think that is what is causing KW to really think about acquiring starters. Whether you believe it or not, I do not doubt that KW asked for Diamond for Thornton and that scenario fits this model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 02:13 AM) Rios for Lowe. Do it now!! yeah, that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 They should absolutely be concerned with their rotation depth. If they don't deal for a starter, does this signal Sale moving to the rotation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 06:26 PM) They should absolutely be concerned with their rotation depth. If they don't deal for a starter, does this signal Sale moving to the rotation? For next year. Stewart would be the replacement this year, it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 QUOTE (beck72 @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 10:49 AM) If the sox did add a SP via trade, maybe their old friends in KC would be a fit with Bruce Chen. Nothing great, but he'd eat innings, which is what the sox would need to keep Peavy, Humber and Mark all fresh. Chen projects as a type B FA. With him making only $2 mill, the sox could offer him ARB. Not sure what the asking price would be. KC writer says teams are calling about Francis, Chen and Davies and expect to deal. Chen got lit up vs. BOS last outing, but had done well prior to that. http://twitter.com/#!/Royals_Report/st...445061008175105 The sox still play KC 10 more games, with 3 more series vs. them. You figure Chen could get 3 starts vs. the Sox. They certainly haven't done well vs. him, only getting 2 runs in 14 innings. Those 3 games could be huge going down the stretch. Humber appears done as more than a 4 inning guy this season. Say no to Chen. He basically shut us down twice and did little against anybody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Same as Teahen Theory. Take him away from the opponent and the opportunity to beat you 18 times per season, that ends up benefitting you. Certainly, giving up Thome to the Twins and NOT having him on the Sox last year would be a much more dramatic example. But you just know we'd end up facing Chen 2-3 more times in 2011 and losing at least a couple of them. Just the way this season is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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