greg775 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 05:02 PM) The Guillens are rednecks. They are people who came from nothing and got rich but don't know how to handle it and the stench of piss still stays with them. Spoken anonymously on the Internet. This statement really enhances discussion. Guillen is not a redneck. I like his passion when he fights back and says how rich he is. He's one of those rare managers/coaches who is willing to say anything interesting. How many are there willing to stand up for themselves? There was Ditka. There's Ozzie. Piniella was colorful. Some of them were back in the day like Weaver, Lasorda Most are plastic puppets. I love Ozzie's feistiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 01:20 PM) Spoken anonymously on the Internet. This statement really enhances discussion. Guillen is not a redneck. I like his passion when he fights back and says how rich he is. He's one of those rare managers/coaches who is willing to say anything interesting. How many are there willing to stand up for themselves? There was Ditka. There's Ozzie. Piniella was colorful. Some of them were back in the day like Weaver, Lasorda Most are plastic puppets. I love Ozzie's feistiness. I love winning more, and winning with class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) Spoken anonymously on the Internet. This statement really enhances discussion. Guillen is not a redneck. I like his passion when he fights back and says how rich he is. He's one of those rare managers/coaches who is willing to say anything interesting. How many are there willing to stand up for themselves? There was Ditka. There's Ozzie. Piniella was colorful. Some of them were back in the day like Weaver, Lasorda Most are plastic puppets. I love Ozzie's feistiness. This seriously reads like something spit out of some sort of cliche machine. I will say I feel kind of bad for Ozzie Jr. Seems like he's the normal one of the family. Edited August 2, 2011 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 01:23 PM) I love winning more, and winning with class. Winning plastic puppet > Losing feisty loudmouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 07:20 PM) Spoken anonymously on the Internet. This statement really enhances discussion. Guillen is not a redneck. I like his passion when he fights back and says how rich he is. He's one of those rare managers/coaches who is willing to say anything interesting. How many are there willing to stand up for themselves? There was Ditka. There's Ozzie. Piniella was colorful. Some of them were back in the day like Weaver, Lasorda Most are plastic puppets. I love Ozzie's feistiness. Ozzie is all talk. He's an absolute coward on the field. Examples are not benching players when they don't hustle to not retaliating when his players get hit. For all the talk about how "crazy" he is, he's a pretty damn conservative manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maki Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 What happens to Oney when Ozzie goes to Florida and there's no market for his ancillary thoughts in Miami? Quite literally, nobody cares about baseball and thus there's no hoopla or press to follow his every tweet. In all seriousness, does he then go even farther in an attempt to gain the spotlight? Does he call Hanley out? Does he bring his personal rants to all players in an attempt to gain the national media? If this happened, Ozzie Guillen would never work in the MLB again, and sadly he doesn't yet understand that. If the national media decided to run with one story on the familyand their , he'd be toast, and they've already been toeing the fine line for too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) Has this lovely conversation with Mr. Oney today, thought I would share: Me: @cst_Cowley Any thoughts on the @Oneyguillen and @ESPY_TEAHEN feud? Oney: no such thing Me: that's not what I read: http://t.co/zXIhfy6 Oney: perception isn't reality Me: then please tell me what the reality is. Oney: why would I do that? Ur that important? Me: Just trying to get the facts and understand some tweets that were made by you (that have now been deleted) and him. Oney: don't lose sleep over it. Not ur concern Edited August 2, 2011 by Athomeboy_2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 This is sad. We've reached the point where the best chance of regime change is taunting Ozzie's son in order to set off a string of events with his father that leads to him losing his job. It's just not the right way for him to leave the Sox, but I guess there's no other ending to this story than ugliness and recriminations. You know KW will never be able to stay quiet or take the high road. It's not in his DNA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) The Guillens are rednecks. They are people who came from nothing and got rich but don't know how to handle it and the stench of piss still stays with them. i thought white people are called rednecks?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 11:29 AM) Maybe the 'stench of piss' comment was out of line, but I've seen people like this before. I'm all for giving people a fair shake, but the Gullens have NO CLASS, NONE, ZERO, ZILCH...their sense of entitlement and their mode of arrogance is just breathtaking. It's one thing for Ozzie to brag about his wealth, which is categorically pathetic, but for his son to act like just as big of an ass tells me the issues are endemic to the entire family. But I'll still say my SOP comment could have also been handled better. My point about the SOP is they are wealthy now, but they are still rednecks (redneck doesn't have to be Southern White either). never mind, found it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) Ozzie is all talk. He's an absolute coward on the field. Examples are not benching players when they don't hustle to not retaliating when his players get hit. For all the talk about how "crazy" he is, he's a pretty damn conservative manager. Ding, ding and might I add ding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsox Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 02:11 PM) IIRC we play the Jays at home the last series of the year, which are surely to be meaningless games. If Teahen sniffs the field somehow don't be surprised if Ozzie calls to drill him as his parting gift to Teahen and this organization on his way out the door. There is my "bold" prediction for the rest of the year. What'd really be funny is the Sox pitcher ignores the order to plunk Teahen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (Allsox @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 04:25 PM) What'd really be funny is the Sox pitcher ignores the order to plunk Teahen. I can't imagine a Sox pitcher actually obeying such an order. Even if the pitcher otherwise likes Guillen, why would he care about sending a message to a well-liked former teamate for getting into a spat with Oney? Doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 05:33 PM) I can't imagine a Sox pitcher actually obeying such an order. Even if the pitcher otherwise likes Guillen, why would he care about sending a message to a well-liked former teamate for getting into a spat with Oney? Doesn't make sense. He could always have a rookie do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 04:40 PM) He could always have a rookie do it. Said rookie better not miss otherwise he'll never pitch for the Sox again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 04:42 PM) Said rookie better not miss otherwise he'll never pitch for the Sox again. I definitely thought Tracey had what it takes to be at least a decent reliever, but I must have been wrong seeing as he's never made it with anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 If Ozzie gives that order, whomever the Sox pitcher is should lob a lollipop at Teahen. When asked about it after the game he should say, "I had to follow my manager's orders, but my heart wasn't in it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 04:47 PM) I definitely thought Tracey had what it takes to be at least a decent reliever, but I must have been wrong seeing as he's never made it with anyone. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 03:49 PM) If Ozzie gives that order, whomever the Sox pitcher is should lob a lollipop at Teahen. When asked about it after the game he should say, "I had to follow my manager's orders, but my heart wasn't in it." I was thinking that he'd call one of the September call ups at that point and have them drill Teahen. Someone who wouldn't dare challenge the boss. Just a thought, would be interesting if the situation presented itself and Ozzie knew he was on his way out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Maybe we could reacquire Jon Garland to attempt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 12:02 PM) The Guillens are rednecks. They are people who came from nothing and got rich but don't know how to handle it and the stench of piss still stays with them. Just the type of poster people want around here.... Nice post.... NOT Yeah a Latino redneck, that's kinda new to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 04:47 PM) I definitely thought Tracey had what it takes to be at least a decent reliever, but I must have been wrong seeing as he's never made it with anyone. He had a bad injury not long after Ozzie was the biggest ass in the world to him. Let me reiterate the Ozzie Jr. appreciation. I once heard him on the Score, he knows his stuff and is generally well spoken. f*** Oney though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie4Pres Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 11:29 AM) Maybe the 'stench of piss' comment was out of line, but I've seen people like this before. I'm all for giving people a fair shake, but the Gullens have NO CLASS, NONE, ZERO, ZILCH...their sense of entitlement and their mode of arrogance is just breathtaking. It's one thing for Ozzie to brag about his wealth, which is categorically pathetic, but for his son to act like just as big of an ass tells me the issues are endemic to the entire family. But I'll still say my SOP comment could have also been handled better. My point about the SOP is they are wealthy now, but they are still rednecks (redneck doesn't have to be Southern White either). I can see it. He's uneducated, ignorant, and extremely arrogant. I've grown extremely tired of his crap over the last couple years. The problem is, I don't think it's an act, either. I really think Ozzie IS that ignorant and stupid. If he wasn't managing the White Sox for the last several years, he'd probably be broke, and living back in Venezuela. Oney is just a product of Ozzie's ignorance and lack of education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Paulie4Pres @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 12:23 AM) I can see it. He's uneducated, ignorant, and extremely arrogant. I've grown extremely tired of his crap over the last couple years. The problem is, I don't think it's an act, either. I really think Ozzie IS that ignorant and stupid. If he wasn't managing the White Sox for the last several years, he'd probably be broke, and living back in Venezuela. Oney is just a product of Ozzie's ignorance and lack of education. Your last sentence is just ignorant IMO. Give me a break. You don't know squat about Ozzie's intelligence or anything like that and it is stupid to rail against him like that. He IS a major league manager, one of thoe most desired jobs in the world as baseball still is our pastime even though football is bigger now. How the f*** do you know Ozzie would be broke if he wasn't a big league manager? That's ignorant IMO. Some people act like Ozzie is this big clown who knows nothing about baseball. Hate to break it to you, but he does know a lot about baseball. It has been his life. And do you want to bet me he'll be in baseball as long as he wants to? Florida next several years, then who knows where else. And everybody should be happy cause our next manager will not be outspoken and will be closer to Bev in that regard than Ozzie. You can hate Ozzie for his candor. Some of us appreciate his candor. Edited August 3, 2011 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 This is starting to remind me of the same exact things you hear on talk radio about a certain occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania. It's just that usually they are a bit more circumspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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