bobryansson Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 7, 2011 -> 04:37 PM) Morel has gotten more of a pass because he's a rookie, he's good defensively, he's worked his ass off, and because he's not getting paid 8 digits a year. Simple, no? It is just that simple. It's what we all knew going into the season. It's just an issue because of other general suckiness on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I do find it fairly incredible that he swings the bat as much as he does and yet only has 1 home run. However, I guess Joe Mauer only has 1 home run too. I want to see good baserunning and fundamentals out of our young players more so than immediate above-average statistical production. So tired of the mental errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Morel needs to learn how to take a free pass. Nyuk nyuk. I like the guy, but you are right. He had no business batting second. I'll admit that was a helluva mistake by Ozzeroo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxnGiants Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 If he learns to take a walk more often, he'll be a solid player. He'll never have a huge OBP but I think he can get it up to respectable numbers. Power should improve a bit as well based on what he did in the minors. I'm actually fine with his season so far, I never expected him to contribute much at the plate but over the past few weeks he's starting to look more confident up there. I think we'll see a bit of a spike in his production over the last month & a half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Brent has been just fine for a guy at this stage of his career. He is learning at the major league level, and playing a great 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I remember in the offseason most "educated" Sox fans said that any offense from Morel would be gravy, considering his plus glove. Ah, the good ol' days.... back when Adam Dunn and Alex Rios weren't destroying the city and urinating in everyone's cornflakes, back when we were still "All In".... If Adam Dunn and Alex Rios had played within 80% of expectations, I don't think we'd be talking about Brent Morel's offensive output (or lackthereof). This thread is seemingly just a reminder of how bad bad bad bad bad Dunn/Rios is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (Jillian Michaels' Abs @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 09:16 AM) I remember in the offseason most "educated" Sox fans said that any offense from Morel would be gravy, considering his plus glove. Ah, the good ol' days.... back when Adam Dunn and Alex Rios weren't destroying the city and urinating in everyone's cornflakes, back when we were still "All In".... If Adam Dunn and Alex Rios had played within 80% of expectations, I don't think we'd be talking about Brent Morel's offensive output (or lackthereof). This thread is seemingly just a reminder of how bad bad bad bad bad Dunn/Rios is. Smells exactly like '06 Brian Anderson. I seriously doubt anybody said a sub-600 OPS would be acceptable. I know this is White Sox land. A land where young homegrown position players come to die. But a .587 OPS from your 3B in the AL is really, really, really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxrwhite Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 7, 2011 -> 05:37 PM) Morel has gotten more of a pass because he's a rookie, he's good defensively, he's worked his ass off, and because he's not getting paid 8 digits a year. Simple, no? Exactly. Plus he has an upside yet to be determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 7, 2011 -> 06:37 PM) Morel has gotten more of a pass because he's a rookie, he's good defensively, he's worked his ass off, and because he's not getting paid 8 digits a year. Simple, no? This. Unless someone is cloning Mike Schmidt in their basement somewhere, maybe we could allow some of our young guys to develop instead of b****ing about them all the time. If the 'seasoned veterans' were doing anything worth talking about then we wouldn't need to rip on the 9th hitter on our team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I can make everyone fall in love with Brent Morel... All that needs to have happen is for Kenny to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Maybe Vizquel should play/start a little bit more? We still have a chance in our division. Maybe Vizquel's experience should be considered. Didn't we go on a nice run last year when Vizquel pretty much took over Teahen's starting job? And Vizquel could handle batting second. I am not giving up on Morel for the future. Not saying that he will be a guaranteed success but he deserves more time in the future. At least, his defense is good. However, we have to put out our best team right now. 3rd base is kinda a hole right now (for our offense) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:49 PM) Maybe Vizquel should play/start a little bit more? We still have a chance in our division. Maybe Vizquel's experience should be considered. Didn't we go on a nice run last year when Vizquel pretty much took over Teahen's starting job? And Vizquel could handle batting second. I am not giving up on Morel for the future. Not saying that he will be a guaranteed success but he deserves more time in the future. At least, his defense is good. However, we have to put out our best team right now. 3rd base is kinda a hole right now (for our offense) The difference between those 2 players is not going to make much difference in the grand scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:50 PM) The difference between those 2 players is not going to make much difference in the grand scheme of things. Hmm. I don't know. Their stats are about the same for this year, however Vizquel is a lot more experienced especially down the stretch. I probably would take his experience right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Yeah, I'm really sick of evaluating every single aspect of a baseball player based on OPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 02:53 PM) Hmm. I don't know. Their stats are about the same for this year, however Vizquel is a lot more experienced especially down the stretch. I probably would take his experience right now. I don't think experience is going to play that much of a factor. In fact, I'd argue that playing the younger player is going to be better because it will allow Vizquel to stay a bit fresher down the stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 03:51 PM) I can make everyone fall in love with Brent Morel... All that needs to have happen is for Kenny to trade him. I know what you're trying to say, and it's absolutely BS. No one on here acts like Getz is "the one that got away". People clamor for Daniel Hudson because he's damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 08:19 PM) I know what you're trying to say, and it's absolutely BS. No one on here acts like Getz is "the one that got away". People clamor for Daniel Hudson because he's damn good. They clamor for Brandon Allen too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Time to play Vizquel more or find somebody else to play at 3rd. Morel can have another chance in 2012. Like to see Morel on the bench for awhile. Lillibridge isn't very good defensively at 3rd, is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 08:49 PM) Maybe Vizquel should play/start a little bit more? We still have a chance in our division. Maybe Vizquel's experience should be considered. Didn't we go on a nice run last year when Vizquel pretty much took over Teahen's starting job? And Vizquel could handle batting second. I am not giving up on Morel for the future. Not saying that he will be a guaranteed success but he deserves more time in the future. At least, his defense is good. However, we have to put out our best team right now. 3rd base is kinda a hole right now (for our offense) Please no. Omar is buzzkill. If Omar starts starting a lot at third, yuk. Omar is too f***ing old to be a starter. He's fine in his current role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 08:19 PM) I know what you're trying to say, and it's absolutely BS. No one on here acts like Getz is "the one that got away". People clamor for Daniel Hudson because he's damn good. I've seen a few posts lamenting the loss of Getz. Oh god, remember the Nix vs. Getz debates? Edited August 9, 2011 by Quinarvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) They clamor for Brandon Allen too. I think that trade is more about the fact that we got Pena. And honestly, every Sox fan should be allowed to be angry about having traded for him. Edited August 9, 2011 by bigruss22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 9, 2011 -> 09:16 AM) I think that trade is more about the fact that we got Pena. And honestly, every Sox fan should be allowed about having traded for him. Autocorrect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 9, 2011 -> 08:16 AM) I think that trade is more about the fact that we got Pena. And honestly, every Sox fan should be allowed about having traded for him. It's been a long time since anyone has b****ed about losing Brandon Allen. And now that the A's have him, he will sink into baseball obscurity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 8, 2011 -> 08:19 PM) I know what you're trying to say, and it's absolutely BS. No one on here acts like Getz is "the one that got away". People clamor for Daniel Hudson because he's damn good. Looked damn good last night vs. the dangerous Astros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 9, 2011 -> 08:21 AM) It's been a long time since anyone has b****ed about losing Brandon Allen. And now that the A's have him, he will sink into baseball obscurity... Since the trade deadline at the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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