oldsox Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Josh Kinney has solid numbers this year for Charlotte. Why not bring him up. Granted he is 32 and therefore not an ideal prospect for long term, but he has done well all year and is an experienced guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 (edited) We can still win this thing Kinney stats Team League W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB SO GO/AO AVG CHA INT 6 3 2.77 49 0 0 0 14 61.2 49 22 19 2 17 66 1.76 .221 Edited August 19, 2011 by elrockinMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 Seems to me that I'd call up the minor leaguer with the best chance of helping in the playoffs since he'll be playoff eligible if he stays on the roster through the end of August. Josh Kinney is definitely not that guy. My guess is he won't be on the roster come August 31st. Hopefully Viciedo can get healthy soon, because this would be a great way to make him playoff eligible and allow us a little more roster flexibility come playoff time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 19, 2011 -> 06:32 PM) Seems to me that I'd call up the minor leaguer with the best chance of helping in the playoffs since he'll be playoff eligible if he stays on the roster through the end of August. Josh Kinney is definitely not that guy. My guess is he won't be on the roster come August 31st. Hopefully Viciedo can get healthy soon, because this would be a great way to make him playoff eligible and allow us a little more roster flexibility come playoff time. When you have guys on the dl it gives you maneuvers around that rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2011 -> 05:46 PM) When you have guys on the dl it gives you maneuvers around that rule. I thought the rule allows the 25 man roster as of August 31st + Humber to be playoff eligible. Is that not the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 19, 2011 Share Posted August 19, 2011 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 19, 2011 -> 05:58 PM) I thought the rule allows the 25 man roster as of August 31st + Humber to be playoff eligible. Is that not the case? The 25-man roster plus any player on the major league DL is eligible. A DLed player's elgibility can also be taken by anyone on the 40 man roster. Basically, if Castro is on the DL on Aug. 31 and doesn't come back, Viciedo can take his playoff roster spot, even if he's not the 25 man at the end of August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 19, 2011 -> 04:32 PM) Seems to me that I'd call up the minor leaguer with the best chance of helping in the playoffs since he'll be playoff eligible if he stays on the roster through the end of August. Josh Kinney is definitely not that guy. My guess is he won't be on the roster come August 31st. Hopefully Viciedo can get healthy soon, because this would be a great way to make him playoff eligible and allow us a little more roster flexibility come playoff time. Playoffs?? PLAYOFFS???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 Is it okay to think Stewart might turn into a pretty darn good pitcher? I don't want to offend anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 19, 2011 -> 03:24 PM) The Sox do actually have a number of intriguing relievers to pull up, but keep a few things in mind... --Lindsay, while talented, still struggles mightily with his control. Look at his peripherals. They may not think he's ready for patient MLB hitters. --Reed, if they wait another couple weeks for the 9/1 callups, they avoiding starting his arb clock. Another year of him for cheap is probably more important than adding him now. --Infante... no idea, I thought he'd come up. There are other guys too, like Remenowsky and Nunez, but Rem doesn't seem ready yet and Nunez... like Infante, I have no idea why he wasn't called up. His clock starts on September 1st anyway. September callups get credit for their 30 or so days service so calling up reed now would save us like 12 days of service, which will mean absolutely nothing in the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Aug 20, 2011 -> 03:59 AM) Ugh. I absolutely loathe Juan Pierre. I don't even want to consider him returning. QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 20, 2011 -> 05:27 AM) Playoffs?? PLAYOFFS???? 1.) He won't be back. 2.) Does anybody think our playoff chances are better than 10/90 at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 19, 2011 -> 02:42 PM) Kinney's got that valuable World Series experience that we're going to need later on. This post needed more love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Aug 20, 2011 -> 12:41 AM) Is it okay to think Stewart might turn into a pretty darn good pitcher? I don't want to offend anybody. Yes. THat is acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 19, 2011 -> 05:32 PM) Seems to me that I'd call up the minor leaguer with the best chance of helping in the playoffs since he'll be playoff eligible if he stays on the roster through the end of August. Josh Kinney is definitely not that guy. My guess is he won't be on the roster come August 31st. Hopefully Viciedo can get healthy soon, because this would be a great way to make him playoff eligible and allow us a little more roster flexibility come playoff time. Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 20, 2011 Share Posted August 20, 2011 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Aug 20, 2011 -> 04:41 AM) Is it okay to think Stewart might turn into a pretty darn good pitcher? I don't want to offend anybody. Yes. Except he'll only have a good half year next year before having White Sox disease and suddenly can't pitch more than five innings effectively until he builds arm strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 19, 2011 -> 11:44 PM) His clock starts on September 1st anyway. September callups get credit for their 30 or so days service so calling up reed now would save us like 12 days of service, which will mean absolutely nothing in the long term. For some reason I thought that September call-ups, who are on the 40-man but not the 25-man, didn't accrue service time towards that measure. If I'm wrong, then yeah, no idea why we saw Kinney over Reed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Ozzie loves his veterans. Enough said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 22, 2011 -> 08:06 AM) For some reason I thought that September call-ups, who are on the 40-man but not the 25-man, didn't accrue service time towards that measure. If I'm wrong, then yeah, no idea why we saw Kinney over Reed. The other reason is that they don't think he is ready yet, at least that is what it means to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 22, 2011 -> 08:15 AM) The other reason is that they don't think he is ready yet, at least that is what it means to me. Yeah I'd normally consider that, but really, they guy has just outright dominated at every level including AAA. It is possible he has some flaw not yet exposed by minor league hitting that they want to iron out first, but it is hard to believe that they way he has pitched so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 22, 2011 -> 08:17 AM) Yeah I'd normally consider that, but really, they guy has just outright dominated at every level including AAA. It is possible he has some flaw not yet exposed by minor league hitting that they want to iron out first, but it is hard to believe that they way he has pitched so far. The numbers say one thing for sure, but we have seen plenty of guys kill the minors and still not be ready to go at the major league level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 22, 2011 -> 08:13 AM) Ozzie loves his veterans. Enough said. Because Ozzie is the GM, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 22, 2011 -> 09:22 AM) The numbers say one thing for sure, but we have seen plenty of guys kill the minors and still not be ready to go at the major league level. But we've also seen plenty of guys who coaches/scouts doubt will make it in the major leagues get promoted and wind up in the bigs for 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 22, 2011 -> 08:24 AM) But we've also seen plenty of guys who coaches/scouts doubt will make it in the major leagues get promoted and wind up in the bigs for 15 years. With the vast majority of those guys washing out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 22, 2011 -> 09:24 AM) With the vast majority of those guys washing out... Same thing with the vast majority of guys who kill in the minors too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Because KW talks to Ozzie and Cooper anytime they bring a pitcher up to the Sox. And he's surely never even heard of Reed (knowing Ozzie) and won't until he's on his 25 man roster and forced to used him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 22, 2011 -> 08:25 AM) Same thing with the vast majority of guys who kill in the minors too. Exactly. Odds are if he isn't up here, he isn't ready. Instead the Sox bring up a guy they know they can get rid of pretty easily if need be. Plus with Pena on the DL, they can use an extra guy out of the minors to replace him if they were to actually make the playoffs, so Reed could still go even if he did get a Sept 1 call up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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