Indians awarded claim on Thome

[Milkman delivers]

So we let a 21-year old phenom waste away at AAA for months when he could've made a difference in the standings, yet we're trying to acquire a 42-year old DH with a little over a month left in the season and our playoff hopes all but done?

 

It's a joke. I will cherish the day that Ozzie and Kenny are gone.

 

As for the waiver claim, this says it all:

 

[Jordan4life_2007]

This is just weird and pathetic. The Sox could have kept big Jim for 1.5 million two years ago but forced him out. This team has really been a joke with no plan claiming has-beens like Manny, over-paid never weres like Alex Rios, etc.

 

Now Kenny, what are you going to do? Have Dunn ride the bench while a 42 year old who is better than him plays DH? Have Thome ride out his final days on the bench for those few great standing ovations as #25 sells some tickets and a few more jerseys? You could have had Viciedo raking up here before he got injured, and he could come up now.

 

This team has no plan and is grasping at straws trying to steal a possible bench World Series ring from Big Jim, as well as your money, White Sox fans.

 

My sig is returned.

 

Isn't the main reason Ozzie wouldn't sit Dunn (in particular against LH pitching) is because he wanted to show his confidence or faith or whatever in him? What message does this send to Adam? lol.

[NorthSideSox72]

I'm actually pretty happy the Sox claimed Thome. The team is on the brink, chances of winning the division are dwindling fast, but it is not quite over yet. Besides, Thome being there will put more butts in the seats, which helps the team's payroll situation (partially offsetting his cost). And Thome has said he enjoyed his time with the Sox.

 

So the only reason to hesitate, really, is the whole thing with getting Jim a shot at a ring. I can understand that, I'd love to see him get a ring, but it isn't exactly a known thing he'd go somewhere else and have a better shot anyway. And if Jim doesn't want to come here, he can just say no.

[Milkman delivers]

I'm actually pretty happy the Sox claimed Thome. The team is on the brink, chances of winning the division are dwindling fast, but it is not quite over yet. Besides, Thome being there will put more butts in the seats, which helps the team's payroll situation (partially offsetting his cost). And Thome has said he enjoyed his time with the Sox.

 

So the only reason to hesitate, really, is the whole thing with getting Jim a shot at a ring. I can understand that, I'd love to see him get a ring, but it isn't exactly a known thing he'd go somewhere else and have a better shot anyway. And if Jim doesn't want to come here, he can just say no.

 

Such a cop out. If this organization had any respect for the man, they would've allowed him to slip past us and see where he goes. Just because someone else might have been the bad guy, doesn't justify us being it.

[bighurt574]

I'm actually pretty happy the Sox claimed Thome. The team is on the brink, chances of winning the division are dwindling fast, but it is not quite over yet. Besides, Thome being there will put more butts in the seats, which helps the team's payroll situation (partially offsetting his cost). And Thome has said he enjoyed his time with the Sox.

 

So the only reason to hesitate, really, is the whole thing with getting Jim a shot at a ring. I can understand that, I'd love to see him get a ring, but it isn't exactly a known thing he'd go somewhere else and have a better shot anyway. And if Jim doesn't want to come here, he can just say no.

 

Acquiring Thome at this point would have no measurable effect on ticket sales.

[NorthSideSox72]

Such a cop out. If this organization had any respect for the man, they would've allowed him to slip past us and see where he goes. Just because someone else might have been the bad guy, doesn't justify us being it.

I guess I don't see it as being the bad guy. KW has a job to do. He and Ozzie failed to do it properly when they let him go back then... so that means he should screw up again now, intentionally? Screw that. As long as the team has a shot, and as long as he helps bring crowds, the Sox should do it.

 

[Jordan4life_2007]

Acquiring Thome at this point would have no measurable effect on ticket sales.

 

That's hogwash. Are you implying that fans won't be lining up in droves to bare witness to a 42 year-old DH?

[Milkman delivers]

I guess I don't see it as being the bad guy. KW has a job to do. He and Ozzie failed to do it properly when they let him go back then... so that means he should screw up again now, intentionally? Screw that. As long as the team has a shot, and as long as he helps bring crowds, the Sox should do it.

 

[Steve9347]

I'm actually pretty happy the Sox claimed Thome. The team is on the brink, chances of winning the division are dwindling fast, but it is not quite over yet.

I'm actually pretty happy the Sox claimed Manny. The team is on the brink, chances of winning the division are dwindling fast, but it is not quite over yet.

 

2011. The same as 2010.

[fathom]

I'm actually pretty happy the Sox claimed Thome. The team is on the brink, chances of winning the division are dwindling fast, but it is not quite over yet. Besides, Thome being there will put more butts in the seats, which helps the team's payroll situation (partially offsetting his cost). And Thome has said he enjoyed his time with the Sox.

 

So the only reason to hesitate, really, is the whole thing with getting Jim a shot at a ring. I can understand that, I'd love to see him get a ring, but it isn't exactly a known thing he'd go somewhere else and have a better shot anyway. And if Jim doesn't want to come here, he can just say no.

 

I'm of the opinion that the cost of adding Thome (which isn't a concern) the rest of this year would outweigh the ticket sale increase the Sox would see by adding Thome. I doubt there's a lot of fans out there who are going to want to go to the game just to see Thome play right now. Hell, I'd be much more willing to go to a game or two down the stretch if I knew I'd see Viciedo play instead of Dunn or Thome.

[Milkman delivers]

I'm of the opinion that the cost of adding Thome (which isn't a concern) the rest of this year would outweigh the ticket sale increase the Sox would see by adding Thome. I doubt there's a lot of fans out there who are going to want to go to the game just to see Thome play right now. Hell, I'd be much more willing to go to a game or two down the stretch if I knew I'd see Viciedo play instead of Dunn or Thome.

 

It won't do much for ticket sales at all. It's just a weak justification.

 

I hope that Thome declines the trade. That'd be a nice, deserved slap in this franchise's face.

[fathom]

I'm actually pretty happy the Sox claimed Manny. The team is on the brink, chances of winning the division are dwindling fast, but it is not quite over yet.

 

2011. The same as 2010.

 

The Manny claim made way, way more sense than this Thome claim.

[SnB]

2011. The same as 2010.

the same as 2009.

 

Seriously, the last 3 years have been exactly the same. Hang around until august, then die.

[NorthSideSox72]

I'm actually pretty happy the Sox claimed Manny. The team is on the brink, chances of winning the division are dwindling fast, but it is not quite over yet.

 

2011. The same as 2010.

 

Except of course that Manny Thome. So no, nothing like the same.

 

I'm of the opinion that the cost of adding Thome (which isn't a concern) the rest of this year would outweigh the ticket sale increase the Sox would see by adding Thome. I doubt there's a lot of fans out there who are going to want to go to the game just to see Thome play right now. Hell, I'd be much more willing to go to a game or two down the stretch if I knew I'd see Viciedo play instead of Dunn or Thome.

 

Oh I'm sure the ticket sales difference is not likely to make up his full salary. A combination of that, and the Sox being more likely to stay in marginal contention, might. But it isn't purely a financial decision either or course.

 

Just like a lot of people want the Sox to draft more high risk, high ceiling guys... I want the organization to keep fighting when there is a real chance (and when the team ahead of us isn't that good). Now, if in a couple weeks the team is 8 or 9 games out, then yeah, it is time to change gears.

 

[fathom]

Except of course that Manny Thome. So no, nothing like the same.

 

 

 

Oh I'm sure the ticket sales difference is not likely to make up his full salary. A combination of that, and the Sox being more likely to stay in marginal contention, might. But it isn't purely a financial decision either or course.

 

Just like a lot of people want the Sox to draft more high risk, high ceiling guys... I want the organization to keep fighting when there is a real chance (and when the team ahead of us isn't that good). Now, if in a couple weeks the team is 8 or 9 games out, then yeah, it is time to change gears.

 

Tigers are so underrated on here. 12 games over .500 now, and recent acquisitions have improved the team. Getting to add Coke to bullpen was huge for them.

[Steve9347]

Except of course that Manny Thome. So no, nothing like the same.

I dunno... an aging DH with on base abilities who can't play everday? That seems to sum up both of them.

 

GOD, remember the stupidity of the Manny acquisition? We were awarded the claim, and he didn't play for like a week after that. They had the man in uniform, but didn't play him, and were paying him $5 million for that one month of baseball.

 

Hawk must have credited like 7 homers to being because Manny was on deck.

[ILMOU]

This season should become a case study for business schools. The mismanagement/paralysis of gutlessness/failure to recognize sunk costs have undermined any chance to compete. A resistance to change that is stupefying. Having two top level managers at odds, but not establishing a clear hierarchy, has been the festering boil of this franchise for a few years.

 

Thome makes no sense. I've never been more frustrated as a Sox fan than this year, and somehow it keeps getting worse.

 

 

[Milkman delivers]

Except of course that Manny Thome. So no, nothing like the same.

 

 

 

Oh I'm sure the ticket sales difference is not likely to make up his full salary. A combination of that, and the Sox being more likely to stay in marginal contention, might. But it isn't purely a financial decision either or course.

 

Just like a lot of people want the Sox to draft more high risk, high ceiling guys... I want the organization to keep fighting when there is a real chance (and when the team ahead of us isn't that good). Now, if in a couple weeks the team is 8 or 9 games out, then yeah, it is time to change gears.

 

What do you consider a real chance? The last time someone posted their chances at the playoffs, wasn't it something like 10-15%? That's like the same chance you'd have of living playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the 6 chambers. That's a real chance?

 

Tigers are so underrated on here. 12 games over .500 now, and recent acquisitions have improved the team. Getting to add Coke to bullpen was huge for them.

 

They certainly are. They've gotten better since the trade deadline when they were already better than us.

[SoxAce]

They certainly are. They've gotten better since the trade deadline when they were already better than us.

 

Not to mention they pretty much have an automatic win when Verlander touches the mound.

[Balta1701]

Serious question...what roster spot does Thome get? It's been made abundantly clear that Dunn can't go on the DL if he's not hurt, and he can't go there right now anyway since we need someone to play 1b while Konerko is hobbled. Flowers and Lucy aren't going, that leaves Lillibridge, De Aza, and Vizquel.

 

I guess I'd move Vizquel, but man, I'm not sure dumping any of those for a part time DH actually makes this a stronger roster.

[Heads22]

I'd rather see Jim go someplace where he can win a title.

[Milkman delivers]

This season should become a case study for business schools. The mismanagement/paralysis of gutlessness/failure to recognize sunk costs have undermined any chance to compete. A resistance to change that is stupefying. Having two top level managers at odds, but not establishing a clear hierarchy, has been the festering boil of this franchise for a few years.

 

Thome makes no sense. I've never been more frustrated as a Sox fan than this year, and somehow it keeps getting worse.

 

Wow, Stan. I always like your posts, but this one is so f***ing good. Honestly, one of the best posts I've seen this year and in my whole time here.

[BigSqwert]

Wow, Stan. I always like your posts, but this one is so f***ing good. Honestly, one of the best posts I've seen this year and in my whole time here.

Agreed

[Milkman delivers]

Serious question...what roster spot does Thome get? It's been made abundantly clear that Dunn can't go on the DL if he's not hurt, and he can't go there right now anyway since we need someone to play 1b while Konerko is hobbled. Flowers and Lucy aren't going, that leaves Lillibridge, De Aza, and Vizquel.

 

I guess I'd move Vizquel, but man, I'm not sure dumping any of those for a part time DH actually makes this a stronger roster.

 

There is no chance they move Vizquel.

[Balta1701]

There is no chance they move Vizquel.

Exactly.

 

Which means that they're either moving De Aza or Lillibridge. Lillibridge is playing 1b half the time now, if he goes down, then that means Adam Dunn is your full time 1b until Konerko can play the field every day. If you send down De Aza, then Lillibridge is your only backup OF.

 

Edit: Maybe they'd DFA Kinney? But that makes our bullpen thinner and Humber isn't eligible to come back for another week.