Princess Dye Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 03:29 PM) It's criminal the moronic manager allowed Peavy to stand out there and give up 6 runs in the first inning with his team on a win streak. So anytime your team is on a win streak, you should tax the bullpen in a losing effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 03:30 PM) Balta, the whole point about Morel is that if you go into next year with 4 guys you have to hope have a huge turnaround season from 2011 in Dunn/Rios/Beckham/Morel, then you're setting yourself up for a potentially really bad year. As I mentioned earlier, 3b seems the most obvious position where you can try to upgrade if you don't want to trade Beckham. Morel has been an awful hitter all year. An absolute sally who has had the approach of being down 0-2 to Johan Santana in his prime before he got into the batter's box just about every time he's gone to bat. If next year is a rebuilding year, fine, give him the job and a new hitting coach and I am fine with it. If we're trying to win, sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:30 PM) Balta, the whole point about Morel is that if you go into next year with 4 guys you have to hope have a huge turnaround season from 2011 in Dunn/Rios/Beckham/Morel, then you're setting yourself up for a potentially really bad year. As I mentioned earlier, 3b seems the most obvious position where you can try to upgrade if you don't want to trade Beckham. Here's the thing fathom...if you trade Danks, like you advocated earlier in this thread, then you're not only requiring 4 guys to have a turnaround, but you're also needing to replace a starter, making things even harder. And then there's your friend Peavy. The sad thing is...you're right about Danks. This team is going to be cutting salary this offseason, we'll be lucky to retain Buehrle. Quentin is going to go. Danks is going to go. And that barely gets us down to $110 million. If this team is going to compete, and we don't get lucky enough to have Tony Reagans bail us out on a contract, then there is not going to be any upgrade other than whatever comes back in trades from the team on the field right now. Which means, competition is going to require having turnaround seasons. It really is the only way we're going to compete. And whatever comes back in those trades...it's likely to be a couple years down the road from being solid production. Edit: oh, and since whatever comes back in trades is likely to struggle for a year or two once it gets to the bigs, you'll be unhappy with that result also and calling for those guys to be replaced too. Because how can you compete with whatever guy that is in the lineup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:33 PM) Morel has been an awful hitter all year. An absolute sally who has had the approach of being down 0-2 to Johan Santana in his prime before he got into the batter's box just about every time he's gone to bat. If next year is a rebuilding year, fine, give him the job and a new hitting coach and I am fine with it. If we're trying to win, sigh I swear I don't have two accounts on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 phew - glad he wasn't starting today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 De Aza with the Twins style double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:34 PM) I swear I don't have two accounts on here And I was so close to having a reason to ban both accounts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:35 PM) De Aza with the Twins style double. Down 3, taking that extra base there was risky. They'd give him the base without a throw on the first pitch here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Haven't seen Omar play in ages it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 that was your pitch, omar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 There's the de Aza pinch hit double off the right hander. I'm vindicated!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxt Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 08:30 PM) Balta, the whole point about Morel is that if you go into next year with 4 guys you have to hope have a huge turnaround season from 2011 in Dunn/Rios/Beckham/Morel, then you're setting yourself up for a potentially really bad year. As I mentioned earlier, 3b seems the most obvious position where you can try to upgrade if you don't want to trade Beckham. With the assinine all in moves that Kenny has made, including the ludicrous sqaundering of talent, we have no choice but to hope guys like Morel and Beckham develop and that dunn and rios at the very least have replacement level years. There is no money to spend to improve the club significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Wow that pitch could've been called a strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 09:35 PM) And I was so close to having a reason to ban both accounts! didn't know moreltalk.com had such strict rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 01:32 PM) So anytime your team is on a win streak, you should tax the bullpen in a losing effort? With a day off tomorrow and 8 innings to go damn straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 03:38 PM) With a day off tomorrow and 8 innings to go damn straight. Not with the team you are chasing coming to town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Way to get the walk Omar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 tying run coming to the plate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Ok, now we need a HR here! who's up next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Adam Dunn on deck? Oh no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Ozzie handled Peavy fine today. By time they had 6 runs, reliever wouldn't have been ready. No one to blame for Twins scoring 7 except for Peavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Dunn is up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Dunn has come out on deck for the Elf. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 03:40 PM) Adam Dunn on deck? Oh no! This ought to be fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:40 PM) Dunn is up? On deck to hit for the Elf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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