Ozzie is leaving on a jetplane

[hogan873]

Several key players from Philly and Atlanta are already being asked to be traded out of the NL East. They know they'll have no chance in the next 7-10 years as long as Ozzie is managing in that division.

I heard through the grapevine that Marlins executives held an emergency closed-door meeting where they are trying to justify raising their payroll to $350 million due to the myriad of players clamboring to play for Ozzie.

[southsider2k5]

I heard through the grapevine that Marlins executives held an emergency closed-door meeting where they are trying to justify raising their payroll to $350 million due to the myriad of players clamboring to play for Ozzie.

 

No need. They said they would play for minimum wage.

[Balta1701]

Holy Jesus, the Marlins have 4 years $16 million on the table? That has to be a Guillen bluff.

He can just buy out the last year of his deal easily then.

[bozzie]

Joe Cowley in today's Sun-Times published the next installment in the ongoing saga between the two 13-year-old girls playing General Manager and Manager of the Chicago White Sox, suggesting Kenny Williams has been given assurances he is returning and can pick his manager from here on out.

 

Clearly, it won't be Ozzie Guillen.

 

Meanwhile, the man Ozzie Guillen says is like a father to him is blowing off his emails, and Ozzie is sulking his way toward resignation that his days as White Sox manager are numbered.

 

How sick will Ozzie be over this when he takes some time in the offseason and finally realizes he did it all to himself.

 

Guillen could have had a job for life with Reinsdorf if he had just learned to get along with the man who was his boss. Alas, Guillen's enormous ego, somehow borne of a middling Major League career as an average fielding, undrehitting shortstop with pi55-poor command of the English language, did him in.

 

Guillen thought his "Hispanic Jackie Gleason" act, as Daddy-Reinsdorf once called it, was endearing enough to the owner that he didn't have to answer to anyone else. Any disagreement Guillen had with Williams was immediately taken to the media, by Ozzie, or even by Oney, his no-talent free-loading son whose largest achievement in this world thus far is a series of broken-English tweets running down the man who signed the contract giving his father millions.

 

How sweet it is now to watch Guillen squirming, realizing he is about to face the ignonimity of a public firing, and not even having the ear of Daddy as his White Sox career careens down the toilet.

 

He did it to himself. Here's how.

 

In 2006, when the White Sox won the World Series, Ozzie for some reason took it upon himself to fued with Frank Thomas who, though injured, was a model teammate in encouraging his compatriots to their world championship.

 

Guillen won that pi55ing contest: at the end of the year, Thomas was gone, replaced by another future Hall of Famer, Jim Thome.

 

But Ozzie didn't like Thome either. Despite averaging 30-something home runs and 90-plus RBIs over three years, Ozzie ran him out of town as well, claiming Kenny was not constructing a team he could manage in forcing him to put the slow-footed Konerko and Thome in the middle of the lineup.

 

Guillen won that pi55ing contest as well: at the end of the 2009, despite his stats, despite his Hall of Fame credentials, and despite being a class teammate and inspiration to his compatriots, Thome was unceremoniously dumped by the Sox. His replacement will go down in Sox lore as the man who began Ozzie's precipitous slide toward the delicious firing we are all waiting for:

 

Mark Kotsay.

 

It was Ozzie who needed Kotsay, to add for some reason "speed" to an American League lineup. Nevermind that Ozzie never took it upon himself to manage a team to compete in the league in which it was competing; no, Ozzie believed he was smarter than all the other American League managers and would not stop bickering with Williams until he could preside over a team with a National League flavor. He got his wish, and Kotsay hit about .230 - with one stolen base.

 

Ozzie's face was so red over the embarrassment of his hand-picked "speedster" that the egg all over it scrambled even before Kenny Williams added to the shame by saying "so there" to Ozzie by going out and getting a slower, fatter, lazier, and far more soft-headed Jim Thome named Adam Dung.

 

If Ozzie had managed Dung, as he was supposed to, he may still have a job. Instead, Ozzie's ego took over again. Despite Dung clearly illustrating he needed a break from lefthanders, Ozzie continued to pencil him into the lineup, most often in the cleanup spot, though sometimes even inexplicably in the #3 spot. Then, when it was clear Dung couldn't hit anything from left or right handers, Guillen still didn't stop, claiming there was no better option on the bench or in the minor leagues than a .170 hitter. It was to be Ozzie's last dig at Williams, who had signed the bovine Dung over Ozzie's objections, and he acted like he knew it, riding it for all he was worth and playing Dung long after it was clear he should have been sitting on the bench.

 

Clearly, Ozzie believed he would win his power struggle with Kenny Williams by embarrassing the General Manager. Mike Ditka took a similar approach right before he lost his job with the Bears, telling the press "I have to play with the cards I'm dealt, gang," while explaining the Bears' inability to compete in the 1992 season.

 

In Ozzie's perfect world, the Sox failure this year, and indeed their inability to finish over .500 in two of the last three seasons (as let's face it, they won't this year), wouldn't have anything to do with him. It would be Kenny's lack of talent causing the failure, and what was poor Ozzie to do except make out the lineup card.

 

Now, thanks to Joe Cowley in today's Sun-Times, we know Ozzie's game is up. His consolation prize is to go manage a pi55 poor team in a market that doesn't give a crap about baseball. He bluffed with a pair of 2's and lost.

 

He deserves everything he gets.

[BigSqwert]

This is actually good stuff.

[pettie4sox]

I liked this piece except the part about bluffing with a pair of 2's.

[JPN366]

You like the term "piss-poor." I don't think the mods have a problem with that word, no need to edit.

Edited September 14, 2011 by JPN366

[knightni]

In 2006, when the White Sox won the World Series,

 

The Sox won the World Series in 2006?

[bozzie]

The Sox won the World Series in 2006?

 

2005, kid . . . did bozzie say 2006?

 

No matter; let's talk baseball, knighty.

[knightni]

2005, kid . . . did bozzie say 2006?

 

No matter; let's talk baseball, knighty.

Bozzie. Cut the s***.

 

 

[NorthSideSox72]

I agree, that was a good piece. I am merging it with the existing Ozzie Rumors thread, but I like it.

 

[Milkman delivers]

Joe Cowley in today's Sun-Times published the next installment in the ongoing saga between the two 13-year-old girls playing General Manager and Manager of the Chicago White Sox, suggesting Kenny Williams has been given assurances he is returning and can pick his manager from here on out.

 

Clearly, it won't be Ozzie Guillen.

 

Meanwhile, the man Ozzie Guillen says is like a father to him is blowing off his emails, and Ozzie is sulking his way toward resignation that his days as White Sox manager are numbered.

 

How sick will Ozzie be over this when he takes some time in the offseason and finally realizes he did it all to himself.

 

Guillen could have had a job for life with Reinsdorf if he had just learned to get along with the man who was his boss. Alas, Guillen's enormous ego, somehow borne of a middling Major League career as an average fielding, undrehitting shortstop with pi55-poor command of the English language, did him in.

 

Guillen thought his "Hispanic Jackie Gleason" act, as Daddy-Reinsdorf once called it, was endearing enough to the owner that he didn't have to answer to anyone else. Any disagreement Guillen had with Williams was immediately taken to the media, by Ozzie, or even by Oney, his no-talent free-loading son whose largest achievement in this world thus far is a series of broken-English tweets running down the man who signed the contract giving his father millions.

 

How sweet it is now to watch Guillen squirming, realizing he is about to face the ignonimity of a public firing, and not even having the ear of Daddy as his White Sox career careens down the toilet.

 

He did it to himself. Here's how.

 

In 2006, when the White Sox won the World Series, Ozzie for some reason took it upon himself to fued with Frank Thomas who, though injured, was a model teammate in encouraging his compatriots to their world championship.

 

Guillen won that pi55ing contest: at the end of the year, Thomas was gone, replaced by another future Hall of Famer, Jim Thome.

 

But Ozzie didn't like Thome either. Despite averaging 30-something home runs and 90-plus RBIs over three years, Ozzie ran him out of town as well, claiming Kenny was not constructing a team he could manage in forcing him to put the slow-footed Konerko and Thome in the middle of the lineup.

 

Guillen won that pi55ing contest as well: at the end of the 2009, despite his stats, despite his Hall of Fame credentials, and despite being a class teammate and inspiration to his compatriots, Thome was unceremoniously dumped by the Sox. His replacement will go down in Sox lore as the man who began Ozzie's precipitous slide toward the delicious firing we are all waiting for:

 

Mark Kotsay.

 

It was Ozzie who needed Kotsay, to add for some reason "speed" to an American League lineup. Nevermind that Ozzie never took it upon himself to manage a team to compete in the league in which it was competing; no, Ozzie believed he was smarter than all the other American League managers and would not stop bickering with Williams until he could preside over a team with a National League flavor. He got his wish, and Kotsay hit about .230 - with one stolen base.

 

Ozzie's face was so red over the embarrassment of his hand-picked "speedster" that the egg all over it scrambled even before Kenny Williams added to the shame by saying "so there" to Ozzie by going out and getting a slower, fatter, lazier, and far more soft-headed Jim Thome named Adam Dung.

 

If Ozzie had managed Dung, as he was supposed to, he may still have a job. Instead, Ozzie's ego took over again. Despite Dung clearly illustrating he needed a break from lefthanders, Ozzie continued to pencil him into the lineup, most often in the cleanup spot, though sometimes even inexplicably in the #3 spot. Then, when it was clear Dung couldn't hit anything from left or right handers, Guillen still didn't stop, claiming there was no better option on the bench or in the minor leagues than a .170 hitter. It was to be Ozzie's last dig at Williams, who had signed the bovine Dung over Ozzie's objections, and he acted like he knew it, riding it for all he was worth and playing Dung long after it was clear he should have been sitting on the bench.

 

Clearly, Ozzie believed he would win his power struggle with Kenny Williams by embarrassing the General Manager. Mike Ditka took a similar approach right before he lost his job with the Bears, telling the press "I have to play with the cards I'm dealt, gang," while explaining the Bears' inability to compete in the 1992 season.

 

In Ozzie's perfect world, the Sox failure this year, and indeed their inability to finish over .500 in two of the last three seasons (as let's face it, they won't this year), wouldn't have anything to do with him. It would be Kenny's lack of talent causing the failure, and what was poor Ozzie to do except make out the lineup card.

 

Now, thanks to Joe Cowley in today's Sun-Times, we know Ozzie's game is up. His consolation prize is to go manage a pi55 poor team in a market that doesn't give a crap about baseball. He bluffed with a pair of 2's and lost.

 

He deserves everything he gets.

 

While I agree with basically every last word of this, I have to wonder if you're really a Sox fan when you didn't even have the correct year of the title in there. Sure, it could have just been a mistake, but it seems less likely due to all of the effort put forth in that harangue.

 

Also, who uses the word "compatriot" that much?

[JPN366]

Also, who uses the word "compatriot" that much?

 

Somebody who uses the term "piss-poor" three times in a short article.

[BigSqwert]

Also, who uses the word "compatriot" that much?

 

I have you listed in the compatriot list within my phone contacts.

[southsider2k5]

I have you listed in the compatriot list within my phone contacts.

 

Is that like a combo comrade and patriot?

[JPN366]

I have you listed in the compatriot list within my phone contacts.

 

I didn't know EVO's had a "Compatriot" list under contacts. Is that an App from the Android Market, Marko?

[bozzie]

While I agree with basically every last word of this, I have to wonder if you're really a Sox fan when you didn't even have the correct year of the title in there. Sure, it could have just been a mistake, but it seems less likely due to all of the effort put forth in that harangue.

 

Also, who uses the word "compatriot" that much?

 

Milkman, bozzie doesn't really care if you consider him a fan of the Pale Hose or not. The facts are there for all to see, compatriot.

[Milkman delivers]

Milkman, bozzie doesn't really care if you consider him a fan of the Pale Hose or not. The facts are there for all to see, compatriot.

 

I agreed with the sentiment of the article, comrade.

[BigSqwert]

I didn't know EVO's had a "Compatriot" list under contacts. Is that an App from the Android Market, Marko?

You can set up groups in your contacts. It's part of the google experience.

[Steve9347]

Joe Cowley in today's Sun-Times published the next installment in the ongoing saga between the two 13-year-old girls playing General Manager and Manager of the Chicago White Sox, suggesting Kenny Williams has been given assurances he is returning and can pick his manager from here on out.

 

Clearly, it won't be Ozzie Guillen.

 

Meanwhile, the man Ozzie Guillen says is like a father to him is blowing off his emails, and Ozzie is sulking his way toward resignation that his days as White Sox manager are numbered.

 

How sick will Ozzie be over this when he takes some time in the offseason and finally realizes he did it all to himself.

 

Guillen could have had a job for life with Reinsdorf if he had just learned to get along with the man who was his boss. Alas, Guillen's enormous ego, somehow borne of a middling Major League career as an average fielding, undrehitting shortstop with pi55-poor command of the English language, did him in.

 

Guillen thought his "Hispanic Jackie Gleason" act, as Daddy-Reinsdorf once called it, was endearing enough to the owner that he didn't have to answer to anyone else. Any disagreement Guillen had with Williams was immediately taken to the media, by Ozzie, or even by Oney, his no-talent free-loading son whose largest achievement in this world thus far is a series of broken-English tweets running down the man who signed the contract giving his father millions.

 

How sweet it is now to watch Guillen squirming, realizing he is about to face the ignonimity of a public firing, and not even having the ear of Daddy as his White Sox career careens down the toilet.

 

He did it to himself. Here's how.

 

In 2006, when the White Sox won the World Series, Ozzie for some reason took it upon himself to fued with Frank Thomas who, though injured, was a model teammate in encouraging his compatriots to their world championship.

 

Guillen won that pi55ing contest: at the end of the year, Thomas was gone, replaced by another future Hall of Famer, Jim Thome.

 

But Ozzie didn't like Thome either. Despite averaging 30-something home runs and 90-plus RBIs over three years, Ozzie ran him out of town as well, claiming Kenny was not constructing a team he could manage in forcing him to put the slow-footed Konerko and Thome in the middle of the lineup.

 

Guillen won that pi55ing contest as well: at the end of the 2009, despite his stats, despite his Hall of Fame credentials, and despite being a class teammate and inspiration to his compatriots, Thome was unceremoniously dumped by the Sox. His replacement will go down in Sox lore as the man who began Ozzie's precipitous slide toward the delicious firing we are all waiting for:

 

Mark Kotsay.

 

It was Ozzie who needed Kotsay, to add for some reason "speed" to an American League lineup. Nevermind that Ozzie never took it upon himself to manage a team to compete in the league in which it was competing; no, Ozzie believed he was smarter than all the other American League managers and would not stop bickering with Williams until he could preside over a team with a National League flavor. He got his wish, and Kotsay hit about .230 - with one stolen base.

 

Ozzie's face was so red over the embarrassment of his hand-picked "speedster" that the egg all over it scrambled even before Kenny Williams added to the shame by saying "so there" to Ozzie by going out and getting a slower, fatter, lazier, and far more soft-headed Jim Thome named Adam Dung.

 

If Ozzie had managed Dung, as he was supposed to, he may still have a job. Instead, Ozzie's ego took over again. Despite Dung clearly illustrating he needed a break from lefthanders, Ozzie continued to pencil him into the lineup, most often in the cleanup spot, though sometimes even inexplicably in the #3 spot. Then, when it was clear Dung couldn't hit anything from left or right handers, Guillen still didn't stop, claiming there was no better option on the bench or in the minor leagues than a .170 hitter. It was to be Ozzie's last dig at Williams, who had signed the bovine Dung over Ozzie's objections, and he acted like he knew it, riding it for all he was worth and playing Dung long after it was clear he should have been sitting on the bench.

 

Clearly, Ozzie believed he would win his power struggle with Kenny Williams by embarrassing the General Manager. Mike Ditka took a similar approach right before he lost his job with the Bears, telling the press "I have to play with the cards I'm dealt, gang," while explaining the Bears' inability to compete in the 1992 season.

 

In Ozzie's perfect world, the Sox failure this year, and indeed their inability to finish over .500 in two of the last three seasons (as let's face it, they won't this year), wouldn't have anything to do with him. It would be Kenny's lack of talent causing the failure, and what was poor Ozzie to do except make out the lineup card.

 

Now, thanks to Joe Cowley in today's Sun-Times, we know Ozzie's game is up. His consolation prize is to go manage a pi55 poor team in a market that doesn't give a crap about baseball. He bluffed with a pair of 2's and lost.

 

He deserves everything he gets.

And just like that, I like Bozzie. I mean, clearly not a Sox fan given no Sox fan would ever type 2006, but entertaining read.

Edited September 14, 2011 by Steve9347

[southsider2k5]

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Ozzie: Going, going . . .

1 hour ago by KenRosenthal

 

How rapidly is Ozzie Guillen’s situation deteriorating with the White Sox?

 

Two weeks ago, a source with knowledge of Guillen’s thinking estimated that the manager was 95 percent certain to return to the White Sox next season.

 

Over the weekend, the source dropped the odds to 50-50. And on Thursday, he reduced them further, to 10 percent.

 

The White Sox have not acted on Guillen’s desire for a contract extension. Guillen, meanwhile, was sharply critical of his players after a 6-5 loss to the Tigers in 10 innings on Wednesday night, saying he hasn’t seen “fight.”

 

“Hell no,” Guillen said. “Their fight left three days ago.”

 

Guillen’s issues, though, are not just with his players. His relationship with general manager Ken Williams again appears unsalvageable, the source said.

 

Williams accepted responsibility for the White Sox’s disappointing season on July 25, saying, “At the end of the day, I’m the one that puts everyone in uniform and I will fall on the sword.”

 

Guillen, however, is the self-proclaimed face of the franchise, the one who meets with the media twice daily. He is “taking all the heat,” the source said, and finds the situation “draining.”

 

The solution is obvious: While Guillen is under contract to the White Sox for next season, the Marlins’ desire to hire him as they open a their new ballpark is perhaps the worst-kept secret in baseball.

 

If the White Sox do not fire Guillen, the only way he could leave for the Marlins would be if the teams made a trade – an option the Marlins pursued last off-season and would consider again, according to published reports.

 

— Ken Rosenthal

[BigSqwert]

[LittleHurt05]

If the White Sox do not fire Guillen, the only way he could leave for the Marlins would be if the teams made a trade – an option the Marlins pursued last off-season and would consider again, according to published reports

 

How about a CQ & Ozzie trade for Mike Stanton?

[Jordan4life_2007]

How about a CQ & Ozzie trade for Mike Stanton?

 

That might just be worth it from our end. I'll wait for greg and elrockin's thoughts on this potential swap before I come to a conclusion. It is kinda risky from our point of view.

[Texsox]

My only question is when does the team announce Ozzie isn't back for next season? After the World Series? Do they have a manager in mind?