Balta1701 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 10:31 AM) When I think Sandy Alomar Jr., I think Cleveland Indians. The poster I was responding to implied he wanted to get away from the in-house method of hiring this franchise has adopted over the last decade or so (KW, Ozzie, Baines, Raines, Walker, Cora, etc). Sandy Alomar Jr. is, IMO, very much an in house hire, regardless of the fact that he spent his best years in Cleveland. Tim Raines spent a ton of time in Montreal and NY but he's on your list of in-house hires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 For all the talk about no in-house candidates, many on this board seem to want Big Frank as hitting coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 09:37 AM) Sandy Alomar Jr. is, IMO, very much an in house hire, regardless of the fact that he spent his best years in Cleveland. Tim Raines spent a ton of time in Montreal and NY but he's on your list of in-house hires. 70 games in 2001. Another 50 or so the next year. 20 in 2006? That doesn't even come out to a full season's worth of games. Raines was our everyday LF for five consecutive seasons. Edited September 16, 2011 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 08:30 AM) Sandy Alomar Jr. is connected to this franchise, played here a couple times, even was traded for as a stopgap and was buehrle's private catcher for half a year after the Widge was let go Might as well add his brother and Carl Everett to that list then.. Hell, Jim Thome had a couple years here. He had his best years in Cleveland and will retire in Cleveland, with a call to the hall with an Indian cap on, but dammit he's in-house with us! Sandy Alomar Jr. is 'connected' (and I'm doing the same thing J4L did when he quoted it that way) with this franchise cause he had a little taste in sox gear here. I don't think anyone here would consider him an "in-house" name. Edited September 16, 2011 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 09:59 AM) Might as well add his brother and Carl Everett to that list then.. Hell, Jim Thome had a couple years here. He had his best years in Cleveland and will retire in Cleveland, with a call to the hall with an Indian cap on, but dammit he's in-house with us! Just seems like you have to have spent a considerable amount of time with the organization to be worthy of a hire here. We need to get away from that crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 15, 2011 -> 03:45 PM) Are the veterans going to respond to a rah rah kind of guy? You know, I'm not certain I understand what style manager Ozzie is. He doesn't seem like the Rah Rah type, but he doesn't seem quiet either. He defies discription. I do know repalcing him with another him isn't the answer. new blood doesn't necessarily mean "rah-rah". Hell...look at Kirk Gibson. Not rah-rah at all. Just a supportive, no bs guy that has surrounded himself with a great staff. The words, "respected" and stature come to mind. I'm not too sure Oz is respected anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Dave Martinez played with the Sox for three years. That is a guy I would give a shot to with Hahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_LEE45 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) Dave Martinez played with the Sox for three years. That is a guy I would give a shot to with Hahn. this would be the best thing the sox can do is hire Dave Martinez ans have Hahn GM ,i always defended Gullien and Williams but the time has come for CHANGE!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 He should be Latin and from Venezuela so that he can attract lots of talented free agent players here from his homeland since he is well-respected and charismatic and that would give this franchise an advantage over others. Oh wait, that didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 He should be someone who won't pop off this: Guillen couldn’t resist taking a poke at those who questioned why it took so long for Dayan Viciedo to be brought up from Class AAA. Viciedo, who hasn’t hit a home run since his first game of the season on Aug. 28 at Seattle, was hitless in his last 12 at-bats and didn’t start Friday. “Right now ‘The Tank’ is going through a tough time, our savior,” Guillen said. “Remember the guy who was going to take us to the top? He’s had a tough time. I’m going to give him a break.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 05:57 PM) He should be someone who won't pop off this: Guillen couldn’t resist taking a poke at those who questioned why it took so long for Dayan Viciedo to be brought up from Class AAA. Viciedo, who hasn’t hit a home run since his first game of the season on Aug. 28 at Seattle, was hitless in his last 12 at-bats and didn’t start Friday. “Right now ‘The Tank’ is going through a tough time, our savior,” Guillen said. “Remember the guy who was going to take us to the top? He’s had a tough time. I’m going to give him a break.” OH FOR F***'S SAKE YOU COULDN'T RESIST COULD YOU? DAY 1 WHEN HE'S UP, SAME LINE. DAY 30, GOTTA RUB THE SALT IN THE WOUND MORE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 05:26 PM) OH FOR F***'S SAKE YOU COULDN'T RESIST COULD YOU? DAY 1 WHEN HE'S UP, SAME LINE. DAY 30, GOTTA RUB THE SALT IN THE WOUND MORE!!!! Its pretty interesting he had nothing to say before this 0-20, and he did have him bat clean up the last week. Ozzie is an ass. Edited September 17, 2011 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 06:33 PM) Its pretty interesting he had nothing to say before this 0-20, and he did have him bat clean up the last week. Ozzie is an ass. I think Ozzie genuinely dislikes him, deep down. I don't think it has anything to do with him as a person, I just think that Ozzie wants him to fail so that he's proven right. He's like a certain set of posters here who show up when the team is losing big in game threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Mark Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 15, 2011 -> 04:59 PM) I nominate Bill Pullman's character from 'Independence Day'. This is the funniest thing I've ever read on this site. For whatever reason that really made me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) Dave Martinez played with the Sox for three years. That is a guy I would give a shot to with Hahn. So did Kenny Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 I also want a manager who doesn't publicly rip his rookies to prove that his critics are wrong every time his rookies struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 05:26 PM) OH FOR F***'S SAKE YOU COULDN'T RESIST COULD YOU? DAY 1 WHEN HE'S UP, SAME LINE. DAY 30, GOTTA RUB THE SALT IN THE WOUND MORE!!!! You know what Ozzie? Just leave. Never come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 10:51 PM) I think Ozzie genuinely dislikes him, deep down. I don't think it has anything to do with him as a person, I just think that Ozzie wants him to fail so that he's proven right. He's like a certain set of posters here who show up when the team is losing big in game threads. I've never felt like Ozzie got along well with the young players on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I hope he quits after tonight's debacle of a game. No wait. He'll just throw more people under the bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 09:24 PM) I've never felt like Ozzie got along well with the young players on the team. He would with some of them, but it's impossible to predict this one. Viciedo seems like the kind he ought to like, but defeating the evil critics is more important! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 04:33 PM) Its pretty interesting he had nothing to say before this 0-20, and he did have him bat clean up the last week. Ozzie is an ass. And he's poison to a young player like Viciedo. Can't be fired quick enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 17, 2011 -> 06:33 PM) Its pretty interesting he had nothing to say before this 0-20, and he did have him bat clean up the last week. Ozzie is an ass. Couple hits for Viciedo today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 16, 2011 -> 12:20 PM) Dave Martinez played with the Sox for three years. That is a guy I would give a shot to with Hahn. Please stop with the Alomar/Martinez ideas. The LAST thing this team needs is another player's manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 19, 2011 Author Share Posted September 19, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Sep 19, 2011 -> 01:20 AM) Please stop with the Alomar/Martinez ideas. The LAST thing this team needs is another player's manager. *another* I'm not certain I would consider Oz a player's manager this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 OH FOR F***'S SAKE YOU COULDN'T RESIST COULD YOU? DAY 1 WHEN HE'S UP, SAME LINE. DAY 30, GOTTA RUB THE SALT IN THE WOUND MORE!!!! Really, I have no problem with Ozzie stating this.. Ozzie thought he wasn't ready to play everyday in the big leagues.. and Tank is proving Ozzie right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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