SoIL Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...his-corner.html From today's SunTimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (SoIL @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 08:41 AM) http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...his-corner.html From today's SunTimes. The same guy who didn't think we needed any additions at the trade deadline in 2006 and 2008? He should stick to hitting and let upper management make hiring decisions. Edited September 20, 2011 by BigSqwert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Konerko is the one flower in Walker's cap, the one guy who has seemingly done everything right and come up with big benefits. Can we keep Walker as a Konerko-only hitting consultant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Its not surprising they've become friends over the years, but Paulie knows more about hitting than Walker ever did. I see this as a stand up guy standing up for someone he likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Konerko is one hitter. And, he's the one hitter who in 2011 hit comparably to his norms/expectations (average-wise he was actually higher, though power-wise he was down a bit). This is both an indictment of Walker, and something to give hope for 2012 with a different hitting coach, but think about this for a second... of the Sox starting lineup hitters on Opening Day: Pierre, Rios, Quentin, Morel*, Ramirez, Beckham, Konerko, AJP, Dunn... which of them actually performed at the level of their career norms or base expectations at a minimum? Konerko, maybe Quentin. Six bombed out, and not just a little below averages in most cases, but a lot worse. Morel we can leave out of the discussion - a rookie who took 5 months to develop, but then did, as per his usual pattern. When your offense underperforms that badly (and most of them did in 2010 too, BTW) for that long, it is time to make a change. One hitter cannot be used to sacrifice 8 others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 09:28 AM) Its not surprising they've become friends over the years, but Paulie knows more about hitting than Walker ever did. I see this as a stand up guy standing up for someone he likes. And really, by all accounts Walker is a stand up guy too, and works his butt off. So I can see why people would stand up for him. But the results say, despite his efforts, Walker does not appear to be good at being a hitting coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 This thread will go exactly the same way any Walker thread does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 08:33 AM) This thread will go exactly the same way any Walker thread does. Totally. Hopefully, you've cut it off before we get more of the same. Nothing new to say until we know for certain if he's coming back or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I totally respect Paulie but as somebody pointed out: Paulie's the only guy who's actually delivering. We have been over Walker here for years here. Back then I used to give him the benefit of the doubt. No more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 10:43 AM) I totally respect Paulie but as somebody pointed out: Paulie's the only guy who's actually delivering. We have been over Walker here for years here. Back then I used to give him the benefit of the doubt. No more. If only your name was Jerry Reinsdorf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Well good for Konerko. Hopefully that will help Walker find another job next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 08:53 AM) The same guy who didn't think we needed any additions at the trade deadline in 2006 and 2008? He should stick to hitting and let upper management make hiring decisions. He has to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 To me this thread says ... I respect Paulie, but ... he disagrees with me even though he works with Walker every day and sees Walker do his job every day, so he's wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 12:50 PM) To me this thread says ... I respect Paulie, but ... he disagrees with me even though he works with Walker every day and sees Walker do his job every day, so he's wrong. Paulie can always pay Walker to continue to work with him... I believe Frank did the same with Hriniak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 12:50 PM) To me this thread says ... I respect Paulie, but ... he disagrees with me even though he works with Walker every day and sees Walker do his job every day, so he's wrong. To me this post says ... Even though Paulie seems to be the only hitter who's having success with Walker, I will make people feel guilty for criticizing the fact that most hitters underachieve on this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoIL Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 08:53 AM) He should stick to hitting and let upper management make hiring decisions. I find this hilarious (and this is not a personal attack on the poster, just an observation) considereing how many hiring and personnel decisions are made each day by Soxtalk posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 12:50 PM) To me this thread says ... I respect Paulie, but ... he disagrees with me even though he works with Walker every day and sees Walker do his job every day, so he's wrong. Problem is, once you get past Paulie, where's the success? Beckham sees Walk every day, as does Morel, Rios, Dunn, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 12:55 PM) Paulie can always pay Walker to continue to work with him... I believe Frank did the same with Hriniak. If Ozzie is gone, you know Walker is gone. Even if Ozzie sticks around, I can see some coaching changes being forced. If that is the case, I have no problem with a guy like Konerko bringing in Walker if he works for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Good for Walker. Become Paulie's personal hitting coach, not the whole team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I'm fine with that. Do players have that? Their own personal hitting coaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Oh my goodness. How many more fluff pieces do we need of PK telling the world what a messiah-like hitting coach Walker is? Paul, I love you. But STFU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Good for Walker. Become Paulie's personal hitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoIL Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 04:21 PM) Oh my goodness. How many more fluff pieces do we need of PK telling the world what a messiah-like hitting coach Walker is? Paul, I love you. But STFU! I don't know. What do you think? Roughly equivalent to the number of Walker sucks, Ozzie sucks, Kenny sucks, Dunn sucks, Rios sucks, Pierre sucks, this organization sucks, (insert player name here) sucks, threads and posts that cover this site? Balance is a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (SoIL @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 01:09 PM) I find this hilarious (and this is not a personal attack on the poster, just an observation) considereing how many hiring and personnel decisions are made each day by Soxtalk posters. You have no idea how much Madden I have played, do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoIL Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 20, 2011 -> 06:12 PM) You have no idea how much Madden I have played, do you? No! I'm afraid I don't have any idea. On that, I'm clueless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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