knightni Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 08:20 PM) It's on the Sox website ,too. Making chicken salad out of chicken s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 07:17 PM) Cooper made Lance Broadway a stud. Aaron Poreda is a HOFer. Please. Humber and Floyd were top 4 picks I believe and Floyd doesn't even have a league average ERA. Top 4 picks that no one else could fix. So where are Greg Walker's success stories? Joe Borcahrd? Josh Fields? The closest thing he has is Paul Konerko, who already had put up a .300 ba, a 30 HR season, and a 100 RBI season before Walker ever took over. Who does Walker get credit for to make this analogy work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) HAHA, no fan touched that ball. One whiffed and the ball hit the guard rail on a bounce. Edited September 23, 2011 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I think I've agreed with SS2K5 and Balta more in the last month (mainly since Victory registered) than I have in the last two years combined. I don't like this at all. I would join filibuster (that would make things normal again). But that could get ugly - aka the Gordon Beckham gay thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Fukudome has destroyed the Sox since the Indians acquired him. Wouldn't shock me if KW goes after him this offseason for some position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 07:26 PM) I think I've agreed with SS2K5 and Balta more in the last month (mainly since Victory registered) than I have in the last two years combined. I don't like this at all. I would join filibuster (that would make things normal again). But that could get ugly - aka the Gordon Beckham gay thread. I've rarely had the motivation to even browse Soxtalk these last few months, but I've taken notice of Balta's shift in demeanor. He's much more critical of this team. Not that any of it isn't justified, but coming from him I'm not used to it. For anyone not around that often it's even more noticeable. Edited September 23, 2011 by Flash Tizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 07:30 PM) I've rarely had the motivation to even browse Soxtalk these last few months, but I've taken notice of Balta's shift in demeanor. He's much more critical of this team. Not that any of it isn't justified, but coming from him I'm not used to it. For anyone not around that often it's even more noticeable. 2k5 has been even more noticeable. I went 'dark' after last year's disappointment. Looks like their boiling point was this year's fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 08:26 PM) I think I've agreed with SS2K5 and Balta more in the last month (mainly since Victory registered) than I have in the last two years combined. I don't like this at all. I would join filibuster (that would make things normal again). But that could get ugly - aka the Gordon Beckham gay thread. Oh god no.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 07:23 PM) Top 4 picks that no one else could fix. So where are Greg Walker's success stories? Joe Borcahrd? Josh Fields? The closest thing he has is Paul Konerko, who already had put up a .300 ba, a 30 HR season, and a 100 RBI season before Walker ever took over. Who does Walker get credit for to make this analogy work? No one was able to fix those guys. If they had success elsewhere, I could see where you could say Walker was lacking. But that's not the case. Its like teaching an English class and having Ozzie Guillen for a student. If you go by the finish product, its not necessarily a reflection on the teacher. But you're right, if Humber pitches well, Cooper taught him everything he knows. If he gives up 4 to a AAA Cleveland team, its because he's just not good. But if the Sox get shut down by Bruce Chen, the guy having a better year than Floyd and Danks, its because Greg Walker has no plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Bingo. At this point of the season you are trying to get the guys ready for next year. guys who have had bad years you want out there to try to get turned around. It isn't August June when the season actually mattered anymore, which takes away from the attempt at being a smart ass. This season was lost before August... After the July 31st trade deadline, the White Sox got weaker, the Tigers got stronger.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 08:30 PM) I've rarely had the motivation to even browse Soxtalk these last few months, but I've taken notice of Balta's shift in demeanor. He's much more critical of this team. Not that any of it isn't justified, but coming from him I'm not used to it. For anyone not around that often it's even more noticeable. I think I was very clear on my line. I think it's only fair to evaluate a manager or front office in aggregate. 88 wins last year and a 2008 division championship...that's kinda close, I can consider that. 3 straight years of missing the playoffs, then I can't defend things that I might otherwise tolerate if they were winning. This was the line, I think I said that last January. They failed to meet the required standard. There's no other defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 07:36 PM) This season was lost before August... After the July 31st trade deadline, the White Sox got weaker, the Tigers got stronger.. The team was something like three games out then. They lost pretty much every single game they play against Detroit. The season was lost then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 08:36 PM) This season was lost before August... After the July 31st trade deadline, the White Sox got weaker, the Tigers got stronger.. You're pretty much right, this season was lost when they went 11-22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 The team was something like three games out then. They lost pretty much every single game they play against Detroit. The season was lost then. I beg to differ.. The Sox needed to make an impact at the trade deadline if they were seriously going to make a run.. They didn't and the rest is history. The team was inconsistent all year, Not since Juneish did I think this team had a chance to make it... Unless they made a move, or somehow Dunn recalled how to be Dunn. At the deadline we move at the time our 3rd best starting pitcher and KW screw up.. for a bag of peanuts, and old sock. DET went and fixed their problem at 3rd, and got a SP and some RP.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 08:48 PM) I beg to differ.. The Sox needed to make an impact at the trade deadline if they were seriously going to make a run.. They didn't and the rest is history. The team was inconsistent all year, Not since Juneish did I think this team had a chance to make it... Unless they made a move, or somehow Dunn recalled how to be Dunn. At the deadline we move at the time our 3rd best starting pitcher and KW screw up.. for a bag of peanuts, and old sock. DET went and fixed their problem at 3rd, and got a SP and some RP.. What need did the white sox have that was fixable? The only legit needs were cf and dh. They could have gone for Beltran or some dh option, but Ozzie would have had to bench his guy. 3b? MOrel has actually outperformed Betemit. And Beltran would have not only cost Viciedo...he wouldn't have outproduced De Aza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Not quite sure why Ozzie has been pushing his starting pitchers so hard of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 That was smoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 02:03 AM) That was smoked. Ozzie got Humber's ERA all the way up to 3.86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I'm very confident, all finances being equal, the ladies would find me a better looking guy than Asdrubal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Sox making a run at pick number 13 in next year's draft. Go Nats/Reds/Mets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 07:48 PM) I beg to differ.. The Sox needed to make an impact at the trade deadline if they were seriously going to make a run.. They didn't and the rest is history. The team was inconsistent all year, Not since Juneish did I think this team had a chance to make it... Unless they made a move, or somehow Dunn recalled how to be Dunn. At the deadline we move at the time our 3rd best starting pitcher and KW screw up.. for a bag of peanuts, and old sock. DET went and fixed their problem at 3rd, and got a SP and some RP.. The organization didn't have much bargaining chips. Under Kenny most of the mid season trades never had an immediate benefit for the Sox. They got the most from the Garcia trade the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Reed's slider is really mediocre...good thing hitters seem to struggle against his fastball/change-up combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 02:07 AM) Sox making a run at pick number 13 in next year's draft. Go Nats/Reds/Mets. Nats making a great run at it of late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 22, 2011 -> 09:07 PM) Reed's slider is really mediocre...good thing hitters seem to struggle against his fastball/change-up combo A mediocre 3rd pitch on a reliever? Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I hate the little bell that goes off now when a run is scored on CSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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