fathom Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Balta, I really don't get your angle right now on the Jackson for Frasor/Hudson trade. Right now, it looks like a terrible trade for the Sox...don't really know how anyone else could argue differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 08:05 PM) I want Getz and Hudson back... Getz? Lol. Your talent evaluation is hilarious. Aviles was going to put this team over the top too right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 09:05 PM) Huh? I never said I want them back, but the return for the second best starting pitcher traded at the deadline is absolutely awful. Frasor looks like a one and done here. And well still wind up with a draft pick out of it. And I get to rip you guys in 2 or 3 years once Stewart has a chance to develop. The best pitcher on the market still wasn't that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (MAX @ Sep 24, 2011 -> 02:06 AM) You guys are so funny. I have a feeling no one was saying all this when he almost threw a pefect game. Actually, we were happy with the performance but wanted to see how he'd do against a big league lineup. His ERA against any team but the Twins this year has to be in double digits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Getz? Lol. Your talent evaluation is hilarious. Aviles was going to put this team over the top too right? Again both are better than what the Sox put out there everyday at 2b.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Paulie just missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 08:06 PM) Are you guys gonna watch next year? Seems doubful with some of the comments made about 2012. I certainly will. I just won't have high expectations whatsoever. Kind of like the majority of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 09:07 PM) Balta, I really don't get your angle right now on the Jackson for Frasor/Hudson trade. Right now, it looks like a terrible trade for the Sox...don't really know how anyone else could argue differently. If only we got Colby Rasmus, his .575 ops since that trade would fit right in!! The cardinals gave up a fortune! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 24, 2011 -> 02:10 AM) If only we got Colby Rasmussen, his .575 ops since that trade would fit right in!! The cardinals gave up a fortune! So for the next few years, who would you rather have: Rasmus or Stewart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 If only we got Colby Rasmus, his .575 ops since that trade would fit right in!! The cardinals gave up a fortune! What does that have to do with KW, gave away the sox 2nd best pitcher at the time, for a bag of peanuts and an old sock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 09:11 PM) So for the next few years, who would you rather have: Rasmus or Stewart? We already have Rasmus, were just paying him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 So for the next few years, who would you rather have: Rasmus or Stewart? Is neither an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 09:11 PM) What does that have to do with KW, gave away the sox 2nd best pitcher at the time, for a bag of peanuts and an old sock? Because Toronto gave him away for the other sock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 24, 2011 -> 02:12 AM) We already have Rasmus, were just paying him more. Well, if we wanted a crappy Jon Garland clone, we could have just kept Jeff Marquez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Because Toronto gave him away for the other sock. Who cares, what TOR does.. Let just admit it was another bad deal for KW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 And the thing that really bugs me...Gavin Floyd got this same rant in 2007. Brent morel had it a month ago. Moistened would have gotten it if the sox had him. This is why developing guys takes effort, commitment, an struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 24, 2011 -> 01:14 AM) And the thing that really bugs me...Gavin Floyd got this same rant in 2007. Brent morel had it a month ago. Moistened would have gotten it if the sox had him. This is why developing guys takes effort, commitment, an struggling. Moistened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) And the thing that really bugs me...Gavin Floyd got this same rant in 2007. Brent morel had it a month ago. Moistened would have gotten it if the sox had him. This is why developing guys takes effort, commitment, an struggling. If you're "in" a pennant race you don't give up your 2nd best pitcher for nothing.. And if Morel is one of your arguments.. I'm sorry.. Edited September 24, 2011 by VictoryMC98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Oh, and this is the same motivation that caused Kenny to trade Hudson too. How dare a pitcher not succeed right away!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Stewart throws a mean batting practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 09:16 PM) If you're "in" a pennant race you don't give up your 2nd best pitcher for nothing.. And if Morel is one of your arguments.. I'm sorry.. I know you haven't watched this season, that's why you still support Ozzie and think morel is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 08:08 PM) Actually, we were happy with the performance but wanted to see how he'd do against a big league lineup. His ERA against any team but the Twins this year has to be in double digits. No one seemed to care about the twins lineup at the time. My point is simple. The verdict is still out on stewart. He isn't this bad and he isn't as good as he was against the twins as he was that night. What he will be is unkown right now. This isn't a good time to accurately judge the trade. Edited September 24, 2011 by MAX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Oh, and this is the same motivation that caused Kenny to trade Hudson too. How dare a pitcher not succeed right away!! Wait, who wanted Hudson traded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2011 -> 09:15 PM) Moistened? That's an impressive autocorrect for Moustakas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 (edited) I know you haven't watched this season, that's why you still support Ozzie and think morel is a problem. LOL, nice try.. But stop blaming the roster "gaps" on Ozzie.. And just looked at Morel stats.. Decent.. So you are correct, he wasn't a part of the problem... Now Beckham.. Edited September 24, 2011 by VictoryMC98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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