BigSqwert Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 04:47 PM) I hope not. Retired numbers are one thing. Statues should be for legends. And I hate the fact that Fisk has one. QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 04:51 PM) We should have 2 statues right now: Frank and Comiskey. Harold having a statue is a joke and Fisk is just silly, handing them out to very good/borderline great players that won't be getting into the hall just waters down the honor that comes with being immortalized in statue form. Fully agree with you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:46 PM) Fire Cora via text message with 2 games left in the season? Rediculous, what does it matter if he coaches these last two games honestly? And if you're going to fire someone, do it in person not through a text message. Unreal. QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:54 PM) Is this text story a fact? Where was this reported? QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:55 PM) I don't know if it's true or not. I just got home and have only read one article on it. http://eye-on-baseball.blogs.cbssports.com...297882/32312942 The other article just quotes Cowley as it's source. So it's just Joe. I have a hard time believing it, but I suppose it is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I think I read this one correctly: Chris Rongey Kenny also says he offered to vacate GM position for different job with #whitesox but that idea wasn't received well by ownership 1 minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® That seems like the Williams - President, Hahn - GM scenario. I guess it wasn't in the cards afterall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 04:47 PM) I hope not. Retired numbers are one thing. Statues should be for legends. And I hate the fact that Fisk has one. Paul Konerko might be the second-best hitter in Sox history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:04 PM) The other article just quotes Cowley as it's source. So it's just Joe. I have a hard time believing it, but I suppose it is possible. Chuck Garfien shot that down on Twitter. Anything Cowley says not involving Ozzie is outright made up in all likelihood. Heck, if it's about Ozzie it STILL is made up often times. Edited September 27, 2011 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:06 PM) I think I read this one correctly: Chris Rongey Kenny also says he offered to vacate GM position for different job with #whitesox but that idea wasn't received well by ownership 1 minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry® That seems like the Williams - President, Hahn - GM scenario. I guess it wasn't in the cards afterall. I'm shocked that he a) offered it and b) it wasn't accepted. Damn, JR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Paul Konerko might be the second-best hitter in Sox history. Mike Caruso being the best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 04:47 PM) I hope not. Retired numbers are one thing. Statues should be for legends. And I hate the fact that Fisk has one. You hate that Fisk has one? He was one of the best catchers of all time, he's in the hall of fame. Or do you hate it because he only played 60% of his career with the White Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Larry Bowa is praising KW on MLB now... I think he is looking to manage.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:08 PM) Chuck Garfien shot that down on Twitter. Anything Cowley says not involving Ozzie is outright made up in all likelihood. Heck, if it's about Ozzie it STILL is made up often times. Ranger hinted on Facebook his loathing of a certain columnist. Didn't name Joe, but, pretty sure that is who he meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:13 PM) You hate that Fisk has one? He was one of the best catchers of all time, he's in the hall of fame. Or do you hate it because he only played 60% of his career with the White Sox? You don't deserve a statue if the hat on your HOF plaque has a different logo IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:14 PM) Ranger hinted on Facebook his loathing of a certain columnist. Didn't name Joe, but, pretty sure that is who he meant. Ranger is an ass, but Cowley is a far, far bigger ass. So I'm actually going to side with Ranger for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:14 PM) You don't deserve a statue if the hat on your HOF plaque has a different logo IMO. Fair enough. I disagree, but I can understand that perspective. He played less years with the Red Cubs, but he started his career there, and his most famous moment (the '75 series HR) happened there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Ranger is an ass, but Cowley is a far, far bigger ass. So I'm actually going to side with Ranger for once. Ranger, knows where is bread is buttered.. He never states anything bad against the Sox even it is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 It's a real shame the focus isn't on Buehrle tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:18 PM) It's a real shame the focus isn't on Buehrle tonight Good point. I hope he is back though, I still think that is likely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 06:16 PM) Fair enough. I disagree, but I can understand that perspective. He played less years with the Red Cubs, but he started his career there, and his most famous moment (the '75 series HR) happened there as well. What I'd say is that you need to think about Fisk's meaning to the Sox. This was a moribund franchise that literally he helped revitalize. They meant more because they had Fisk. Same reason I'd give Ozzie a statue...he did what no other manager could do for that org and finished the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 06:20 PM) Good point. I hope he is back though, I still think that is likely to happen. I think Cooper being extended 4 years is a pretty good sign towards that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:22 PM) I think Cooper being extended 4 years is a pretty good sign towards that happening. Yeah. They'll find a way to keep Mark IMO. I'm not confident enough in that feeling that I won't be watching and having strong feelings tonight though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:16 PM) Ranger, knows where is bread is buttered.. He never states anything bad against the Sox even it is needed. I've spoken with Rongey personally and this is not the case with him as a person. He willingly fought me on many topics surrounding management and his opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:21 PM) What I'd say is that you need to think about Fisk's meaning to the Sox. This was a moribund franchise that literally he helped revitalize. They meant more because they had Fisk. Same reason I'd give Ozzie a statue...he did what no other manager could do for that org and finished the job. And that's why organizations retire numbers and the Sox put their faces on the left-centerfield wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:23 PM) I've spoken with Rongey personally and this is not the case with him as a person. He willingly fought me on many topics surrounding management and his opinions. I'm guessing he wasn't on the air when he spoke candidly with you though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I think Cooper being extended 4 years is a pretty good sign towards that happening. Did he sign that prior.. I must have missed that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:24 PM) I'm guessing he wasn't on the air when he spoke candidly with you though. No, but I can tell you that he is 100 percent an Ozzie guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 05:27 PM) No, but I can tell you that he is 100 percent an Ozzie guy. I couldn't be less surprised by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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