macsandz Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Very nice haul all things considered. Both could be future impact players. Jhan Marinez Marinez, 23, posted a 3.57 ERA, 11.5 K/9, 6.5 BB/9, and 1.1 HR/9 in 58 Double-A relief innings this year. Prior to the season, Baseball America ranked Marinez fourth among Marlins prospects, citing a "combination of great stuff and immaturity." Marinez has a closer repertoire, wrote BA. Osvaldo Martinez Martinez, a 23-year-old shortstop, hit .245/.296/.322 in 371 Triple-A plate appearances this year. Prior to the season, Baseball America ranked him fifth among Marlins prospects, saying he profiles as a "solid No. 2 hitter" with a strong arm, good instincts, and soft hands at shortstop. At that time, BA saw a future as a versatile but quality utilityman the worst-case scenario for Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Getting rid of Ozzie is the key, whatever we get back is just icing. Getting a couple OK prospects is actually a better haul than I would have expected, this works just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:13 PM) Very nice haul all things considered. Both could be future impact players. Jhan Marinez Marinez, 23, posted a 3.57 ERA, 11.5 K/9, 6.5 BB/9, and 1.1 HR/9 in 58 Double-A relief innings this year. Prior to the season, Baseball America ranked Marinez fourth among Marlins prospects, citing a "combination of great stuff and immaturity." Marinez has a closer repertoire, wrote BA. Osvaldo Martinez Martinez, a 23-year-old shortstop, hit .245/.296/.322 in 371 Triple-A plate appearances this year. Prior to the season, Baseball America ranked him fifth among Marlins prospects, saying he profiles as a "solid No. 2 hitter" with a strong arm, good instincts, and soft hands at shortstop. At that time, BA saw a future as a versatile but quality utilityman the worst-case scenario for Martinez. I was hoping for a top end prospect, Florida minor league system is ranked just as bad as the White Sox. Martinez could be a utility infielder and Jhan a 7th or 8th inning type guy. Maybe I just got my hopes up too high on this one expecting a better return. It is not a terrible return it is what it is! Edited September 27, 2011 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:13 PM) Osvaldo Martinez Martinez, a 23-year-old shortstop, hit .245/.296/.322 in 371 Triple-A plate appearances this year. Prior to the season, Baseball America ranked him fifth among Marlins prospects, saying he profiles as a "solid No. 2 hitter" with a strong arm, good instincts, and soft hands at shortstop. At that time, BA saw a future as a versatile but quality utilityman the worst-case scenario for Martinez. Based strictly what I saw from his stats, he has one good year, followed by one bad year, followed by one good year... you get the idea. Edited September 27, 2011 by Athomeboy_2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 No one else enjoys the irony of getting a player back who can legitimately be called "Ozzie"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) I was hoping for a top end prospect, Florida minor league system is ranked just as bad as the White Sox. Martinez could be a utility infielder and Jhan a 7th or 8th inning type guy. Maybe I just got my hopes up too high on this one expecting a better return. It is not a terrible return it is what it is! I think the story of the Sox asking for Morrison last year distorted a lot of perceptions as to Ozzie's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:34 PM) No one else enjoys the irony of getting a player back who can legitimately be called "Ozzie"? Guillen said only way he would do a deal to leave is if JR/KW still had to deal with an Ozzie in some way, shape or form! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:34 PM) No one else enjoys the irony of getting a player back who can legitimately be called "Ozzie"? He's referred to as Ozzie already. It's not even a matter of "can" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:35 PM) I think the story of the Sox asking for Morrison last year distorted a lot of perceptions as to Ozzie's worth. I agree with that totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) Guillen said only way he would do a deal to leave is if JR/KW still had to deal with an Ozzie in some way, shape or form! Nah, with Guillen's ego, he probably has to be the only Ozzie in the franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:34 PM) No one else enjoys the irony of getting a player back who can legitimately be called "Ozzie"? His numbers are quite Ozzie like as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 07:35 PM) I think the story of the Sox asking for Morrison last year distorted a lot of perceptions as to Ozzie's worth. Rumor yesterday is that it was Stanton we asked for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:34 PM) No one else enjoys the irony of getting a player back who can legitimately be called "Ozzie"? He'll be names Sox manager in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 07:29 PM) Getting rid of Ozzie is the key, whatever we get back is just icing. Getting a couple OK prospects is actually a better haul than I would have expected, this works just fine. Any haul should be better than expected. We got out of our crappy manager's contract. That's awesome. Oh yeah here's a guy who throw 100mph too. Don't know how anyone can complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 This was one of those anything is better then nothing scenarios. And we actually got something. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Rumor yesterday is that it was Stanton we asked for I saw that again, either way, it totally distorted reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted September 27, 2011 Author Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Rumor yesterday is that it was Stanton we asked for Beyond ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:37 PM) Nah, with Guillen's ego, he probably has to be the only Ozzie in the franchise. Ozzie Lewis and Ozzie Chavez were in the system for part of this past season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPN366 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:34 PM) No one else enjoys the irony of getting a player back who can legitimately be called "Ozzie"? I do. Plus, it seems like KW was lazy and picked two guys whose names were listed together alphabetically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:44 PM) Rumor yesterday is that it was Stanton we asked for Yeah, and Ozzie asked for an extension and KW's firing. You can ask for anything you want. Doesn't mean much. Pretty good haul considering we easily could have fired Ozzie and owed him a year on his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 01:37 PM) Nah, with Guillen's ego, he probably has to be the only Ozzie in the franchise. Ozzie should just copyright his name and get it over with... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 It's no LoMo, but I'll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Presumably their poor 2011 seasons would mean that neither would be ranked as highly going into next season. The pitcher is interesting because he has had a high K rate at every stop. Hopefully he can learn some control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 QUOTE (JPN366 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:39 PM) Ozzie Lewis and Ozzie Chavez were in the system for part of this past season. I'm sure that was in his list of demands for Jerry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) Its a nice haul for a lame duck manager who only cares about himself and money. I doubt its enough for jordan4life to blow kenny though. Which is what the organization really needed. At best he may fluff him up a little and walk away, or brush against him as he walks by. Edited September 28, 2011 by MAX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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