shago Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:05 PM) Bringing back Mark Buehrle is going to be your fan draw while they unload other players like Floyd, Quentin, Danks, etc. I wish they would keep MB, but don't see that happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 05:43 PM) No matter who they hire they arent going to draw much after this season. I am cancelling after 9 years and I am sure more are on that boat. Sorry rock, I was being sarcastic. Winning draws fans, end of story. Kim Kardashian could be our manager, and I doubt you'd see a significant attendance increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:02 PM) It's a complete rebuilding phase while paying out Dunn and Rios and using Paulie as the fan draw ... Manager not going to mean much for the next few years The bad contracts are partially mitigated by the promise of De Aza/Flowers/Viciedo. Production from those guys plus a creative/smart addition to the roster and we are back on track. A manager can still matter. Foremost of course is that he not be a total idiot, but then getting past that...there is still something at stake in 2012, especially in a division like ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 09:57 AM) I'd much rather have Martinez. Sandy seems like a quite version of Ozzie, a manager that goes with his gut. I want someone who uses statistics to make better decisions. C'mon there is NO WAY to know what kind of Manager he'd be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:09 PM) The bad contracts are partially mitigated by the promise of De Aza/Flowers/Viciedo. Production from those guys plus a creative/smart addition to the roster and we are back on track. A manager can still matter. Foremost of course is that he not be a total idiot, but then getting past that...there is still something at stake in 2012, especially in a division like ours. I would add Morel to that hopeful list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:08 PM) I wish they would keep MB, but don't see that happening I do 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:12 PM) I would add Morel to that hopeful list. You have several low cost alternatives stepping in for more expensive players Santiago-Thornton Viciedo-Quentin De Aza-Pierre Sale-Danks Stewart/Axelrod-Floyd Flowers-Hopefully AJ, at least Castro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I don't buy this story for a second, but Alomar wouldn't be a bad choice. Martinez is still #1 for me, but Sandy would make the short list.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I like the idea of Alomar as a manager, he has been around baseball his entire life. The thing that concerns me is that he could be Jerry Manuel all over again. I think he is a good option and worthy of getting a shot. I also think the Sox have no shot at Davey Martinez. He will be holding out for a more lucrative and high profile job than the Sox can/will offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) I like the idea of Alomar as a manager, he has been around baseball his entire life. The thing that concerns me is that he could be Jerry Manuel all over again. I think he is a good option and worthy of getting a shot. I also think the Sox have no shot at Davey Martinez. He will be holding out for a more lucrative and high profile job than the Sox can/will offer. Can't that be said about basically anyone in baseball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:16 PM) I do 100% That means they have to either deal two starters, or keep Sale in the pen. Which one one do you see happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:26 PM) Can't that be said about basically anyone in baseball? Not in a professional sense, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Whoever said have Martinez with Sandy as the bench coach, that's my perfecf scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:32 PM) That means they have to either deal two starters, or keep Sale in the pen. Which one one do you see happening? Sale is starting no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:32 PM) That means they have to either deal two starters, or keep Sale in the pen. Which one one do you see happening? Dealing Danks and Floyd. And I can easily see both gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 11:48 AM) He and several other GM's have very positive things to say about him. Rock who is AA you are referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:33 PM) Sale is starting no matter what. So that gives Buehle/Floyd/Peavy/Sale/Humber as the starters? Danks goes, and no spots for Axelrod or Stewart, except maybe the pen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:37 PM) Rock who is AA you are referring to? Alan Alda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:37 PM) Alan Alda Alcoholics Anon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:37 PM) So that gives Buehle/Floyd/Peavy/Sale/Humber as the starters? Danks goes, and no spots for Axelrod or Stewart, except maybe the pen? I posted in the other thread, I think they deal both and put Stewart or Axelrod in the other spot. Our pen actually fills out nicely still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 02:39 PM) I posted in the other thread, I think they deal both and put Stewart or Axelrod in the other spot. Our pen actually fills out nicely still. I wouldn't mind Stewart starting the season at AAA if they intend to keep him a starter. He's been in the bullpen already in his career and Toronto spent a lot of time working to undo that while making him a starter. A year in the bullpen is a worse step back for him than it was for Sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:43 PM) I wouldn't mind Stewart starting the season at AAA if they intend to keep him a starter. He's been in the bullpen already in his career and Toronto spent a lot of time working to undo that while making him a starter. A year in the bullpen is a worse step back for him than it was for Sale. Possibly. WHen I was making up the Pen in the rebuild thread I was actually kind of surprised how well it rounded out with young pieces. I suspect Reed, Santiago and maybe Lindsay could all contribute next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 06:43 PM) I wouldn't mind Stewart starting the season at AAA if they intend to keep him a starter. He's been in the bullpen already in his career and Toronto spent a lot of time working to undo that while making him a starter. A year in the bullpen is a worse step back for him than it was for Sale. You know my opinion on this..he needs to be in AAA to start the year to prove he can actually retire hitters without giving up a ton of hits and be able to keep his minor league ERA below 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:26 PM) Can't that be said about basically anyone in baseball? Anybody that has a dad that played in the MLB and was a coach for 30 years after playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2011 -> 01:37 PM) Alcoholics Anon Anthony Anderson Naw really Alex Anthopoulos - Blue Jays GM. Edited September 28, 2011 by Chet Kincaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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