Marty34 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'd like to see the Sox sign Scott Kazmir as a reclamation project. He fits the criteria that Williams uses and the Sox rotation should have openings. Those openings and Cooper's reputation might make the Sox the preferred destination for starting pitchers who need to bounce back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 It is 12:56 PM Chicago time. And somebody just suggested that the White Sox sign Scott Kazmir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 3, 2011 -> 12:56 PM) It is 12:56 PM Chicago time. And somebody just suggested that the White Sox sign Scott Kazmir. I'd do it on a minor league deal. That's about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'd rather sign Casimir Pulaski's corpse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'd go with any White Sox pitching prospect over Kazmir. Kazmir is so done it's not funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 3, 2011 -> 12:57 PM) I'd do it on a minor league deal. That's about it. This. All though from the sounds of it, he is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 The idea of a reclamation project for a guy who was released mid-season is to sign him to a minor league contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Once he has whatever surgery he needs I'd consider it. If he doesn't need surgery, then no, because that means the velocity drop was "real". And maybe driven by other things in his system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Oof. Kaz is borken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Ian Stewart is a guy that could use a change of scenery. If you are going into rebuilding he is the kind of guy you take a chance on, and if he gets it back, you can trade him for other pieces to help expediate the process of stocking the farm system. The Rockies are looking for a LF, getting Stewart as a throw in as part of a CQ trade would be a victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 How about this: rumor is the Mets will non-tender Angel Pagan. If CQ is traded, we could go with Pagan, Viciedo, and Rios/De Aza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 10:25 AM) How about this: rumor is the Mets will non-tender Angel Pagan. If CQ is traded, we could go with Pagan, Viciedo, and Rios/De Aza. I dont really want Pagan taking at bats from De Aza or Viciedo. I think a more interesting proposition with the Mets is swapping Rios for Bay. Rios would be more valuable in the NL especially since the Mets have lost Beltran and likely Pagan. The money owed is roughly the same if you figure in Bays buyout. It clears space for the Mets to give FMart a full season shot in LF and lets the Sox get the bad salary after two years instead of three. Not sure what the Mets opinion of Bay is now, but they were really down on him at mid-season. If Bay cant return to form you have a $32M platoon DH as your biggest risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 09:07 AM) Ian Stewart is a guy that could use a change of scenery. If you are going into rebuilding he is the kind of guy you take a chance on, and if he gets it back, you can trade him for other pieces to help expediate the process of stocking the farm system. The Rockies are looking for a LF, getting Stewart as a throw in as part of a CQ trade would be a victory. Rockies are looking for starting pitching. They would overpay for someone like Danks. We could probably start with Seth Smith, a solid corner outfielder who hits .280 +, decent power, runs well, hustles. He would help the Sox. Otherwise, we trade Danks in July -- no telling what his value would be then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 3, 2011 -> 07:04 PM) The idea of a reclamation project for a guy who was released mid-season is to sign him to a minor league contract. Not like we haven't done this type of thing before. Not sure he has anything left, but stranger things have happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Adam Dunn Too soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prochisox Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) Joel Zumaya.. News: Zumaya (elbow) played catch at about 90 feet earlier this week, the Tigers' official site reports. (Sun Sep 11) Spin: Zumaya has been sidelined all season after undergoing exploratory surgery on his right elbow during spring training. Instead of focusing on this year, look for Zumaya to concentrate his efforts on returning to full strength for next season. The 26-year-old reliever will be a free agent this offseason. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/6392/joel-zumaya Edited October 5, 2011 by GO CHI SOX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (GO CHI SOX! @ Oct 4, 2011 -> 09:15 PM) Joel Zumaya.. News: Zumaya (elbow) played catch at about 90 feet earlier this week, the Tigers' official site reports. (Sun Sep 11) Spin: Zumaya has been sidelined all season after undergoing exploratory surgery on his right elbow during spring training. Instead of focusing on this year, look for Zumaya to concentrate his efforts on returning to full strength for next season. The 26-year-old reliever will be a free agent this offseason. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/6392/joel-zumaya I don't think Zumaya has any chance at ever staying healthy again without the aid of PEDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny Hates Prospects Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 No matter what's wrong with Kazmir, it would still be impossible for me to get upset at the thought of him wearing a Charlotte Knights jersey. Hell, stranger things have happened in the game of baseball, and a guy like him turning into even an effective lefty specialist would be a huge gain because (at least in theory) it would allow us to ditch Ohman and his salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 01:08 AM) No matter what's wrong with Kazmir, it would still be impossible for me to get upset at the thought of him wearing a Charlotte Knights jersey. Hell, stranger things have happened in the game of baseball, and a guy like him turning into even an effective lefty specialist would be a huge gain because (at least in theory) it would allow us to ditch Ohman and his salary. Will Ohman gets a whopping $2.5 million this season. Moving his salary really doesn't do much of anything to change anything. Would be acceptable to move him if there was a player coming back (I still don't know how the Yankees didn't deal for him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 12:08 AM) No matter what's wrong with Kazmir, it would still be impossible for me to get upset at the thought of him wearing a Charlotte Knights jersey. Hell, stranger things have happened in the game of baseball, and a guy like him turning into even an effective lefty specialist would be a huge gain because (at least in theory) it would allow us to ditch Ohman and his salary. With Sale back in the rotation and Thornton probably getting traded, Wil the Thril is going no where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 07:49 AM) Will Ohman gets a whopping $2.5 million this season. Moving his salary really doesn't do much of anything to change anything. Would be acceptable to move him if there was a player coming back (I still don't know how the Yankees didn't deal for him). So you'd be against signing Kazmir to a minor league deal, why???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 12:50 AM) I don't think Zumaya has any chance at ever staying healthy again without the aid of PEDs What about with Colon's butt fat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 09:54 AM) So you'd be against signing Kazmir to a minor league deal, why???? Season FA-Vel 2007 92.4 2008 91.8 2009 91.2 2010 90.6 2011 86.8 He's either hurt or he's off something. I don't want to pay for his surgery and I don't want him if he's on something. If he were to come in and clock 93 on a radar gun, fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 11:30 AM) What about with Colon's butt fat? Are you suggesting ingestion, injection, or surgical attachment? Because I think all 3 are viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 12:07 AM) Are you suggesting ingestion, injection, or surgical attachment? Because I think all 3 are viable. Sure, if they involve stem cells... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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