sunofgold Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Any way that we keep Quentin in 2012? He really didn't increase his trade value being on the DL for the end of the season. I am looking at this team and not taking salaries in consideration..this would be our best OF combination for 2012. Viciedo in LF, De Aza in CF, and Quentin in RF. Maybe not the best defensively but I believe that Carlos improved his defense in 2011 vs 2010. Offensively however this would give us a nice middle of the order with Konerko, Viciedo, and Quentin. You could bat them in any order that you like. And De Aza would be given the chance to be the new leadoff man. But then there is Rios. I know that he has a big salary. But I hope that the White Sox make him earn a starting spot. Let him know that he isn't guaranteed a starting spot and has to go out and earn it. Same for Dunn..make them earn the playing time. Lillibridge also fits in nicely in a corner OF spot or 1B and Konerko or Viciedo or Quentin can DH a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 No. Pretty much no chance at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I think it's 70/30 against...but I wouldn't rule it out. I think the Sox would like a solid return for him, and if I were an opposing GM, I wouldn't offer anything other than scraps since he can't stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 No, elrockin. He's all but gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 03:28 PM) No. Pretty much no chance at all. Let me throw this out there. What if we don't resign Buehrle and we trade Danks. Would that be enough of a salary dump to keep Quentin? I personally don't think that Quentin has reached his peak yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 03:32 PM) Let me throw this out there. What if we don't resign Buehrle and we trade Danks. Would that be enough of a salary dump to keep Quentin? I personally don't think that Quentin has reached his peak yet. If you make a list of the guys to keep out of that group, Carlos would be 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 03:32 PM) Let me throw this out there. What if we don't resign Buehrle and we trade Danks. Would that be enough of a salary dump to keep Quentin? I personally don't think that Quentin has reached his peak yet. Eh, I'd be more willing to trade Quentin and Danks and re-sign Buehrle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 04:42 PM) Eh, I'd be more willing to trade Quentin and Danks and re-sign Buehrle. ^this is what I want also. I just still struggle to believe we'll get for Quentin what we think Quentin should be worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 03:42 PM) Eh, I'd be more willing to trade Quentin and Danks and re-sign Buehrle. Quentin and Thornton are going to be the first guys to go, and I would bet that Q goes first. The one reprieve Matt might get is that lack of lefties in the pen if Sale moves to the rotation and Matt gets dealt. Q already has he replacement playing on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 03:42 PM) If you make a list of the guys to keep out of that group, Carlos would be 3rd. I agree. Buehrle would be my first choice. I would think they should get something decent back for Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 03:43 PM) ^this is what I want also. I just still struggle to believe we'll get for Quentin what we think Quentin should be worth. He's an interesting trade piece. On one hand, he's shown flashes of being an offensive monster. But, the other (bigger) hand is him being injury-prone and a sub-par defender. I personally don't expect much back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 03:28 PM) No. Pretty much no chance at all. I agree also he is hurt every dam year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 02:47 PM) He's an interesting trade piece. On one hand, he's shown flashes of being an offensive monster. But, the other (bigger) hand is him being injury-prone and a sub-par defender. I personally don't expect much back. You aren't going to get that much back for Quentin. If you keep him and he plays well , then his trade value also increases. How about trading Floyd, Danks, Thornton and re-signing Buehrle and keeping Quentin? Trying my best to get creative. lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 He gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 04:53 PM) You aren't going to get that much back for Quentin. If you keep him and he plays well , then his trade value also increases. How about trading Floyd, Danks, Thornton and re-signing Buehrle and keeping Quentin? Trying my best to get creative. lol! The sad thing is...his trade value really doesn't increase all that much...because he goes from being a full season participant to a 1/2 season rental. He comes out with a 1.000 OPS in the first half next year and his trade value only nudges up because that might push him to be a type A Free agent...he'd just be a 2 month rental you can't count on to stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Don't expect to be overwhelmed by the returns for any of the players the Sox trade. I just don't think teams will be looking to add salary and give much in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 03:19 PM) Don't expect to be overwhelmed by the returns for any of the players the Sox trade. I just don't think teams will be looking to add salary and give much in return. Somewhat agree...except for Danks. He should bring a decent return IMO. If people are looking for blockbusters...I doubt it happens...but it may be interesting to see what parts could be had for a package of say Floyd/Quentin or Danks/Quentin. The parts by themselves probably won't bring all that much. With that said...I know hindsight 20/20...but how Quentin survived the deadline last year and wasn't dealt is maddening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 They might trade him during Spring Training after he proves he has recovered from the shoulder injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm ready for the headcase to be gonezo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (Wanne @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 04:31 PM) Somewhat agree...except for Danks. He should bring a decent return IMO. If people are looking for blockbusters...I doubt it happens...but it may be interesting to see what parts could be had for a package of say Floyd/Quentin or Danks/Quentin. The parts by themselves probably won't bring all that much. Danks is an interesting case. He's coming off a down year with only a year left before free agency, don't know what the return would be. With that said...I know hindsight 20/20...but how Quentin survived the deadline last year and wasn't dealt is maddening. I don't think it's hindsight at all. To me it's a fireable offense on Williams part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 04:56 PM) Danks is an interesting case. He's coming off a down year with only a year left before free agency, don't know what the return would be. I don't think it's hindsight at all. To me it's a fireable offense on Williams part. KW breathing is a fireable offense to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 04:56 PM) I don't think it's hindsight at all. To me it's a fireable offense on Williams part. So Kenny Williams is going to MAKE another team give him live bodies for Quentin? GMAMFB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I really hope he isn't. I like him, but we need to get prospects for him. This team will not be good over the next year or so unless Rios/Dunn produce, there's no sense in wasting value by paying veterans to try to carry the dead weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 5, 2011 -> 04:02 PM) The sad thing is...his trade value really doesn't increase all that much...because he goes from being a full season participant to a 1/2 season rental. He comes out with a 1.000 OPS in the first half next year and his trade value only nudges up because that might push him to be a type A Free agent...he'd just be a 2 month rental you can't count on to stay healthy. there's that and then his trade value coming off an injured shoulder. Cancel each other out IMO. I'd rather roll the dice and keep him, then hope the guys making 100 mil perform like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Not gonna be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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