Controlled Chaos Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Anyone know a good bench coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 05:07 PM) I asked for carlton Fisk and anyone who joined me was closer in reality than any of you other jokers - er I mean Soxtalk posters. It's the organizational thing. I look forward to success in 2012. KW said one of the requirements was that the manager get along with everyone not no one. Fisk would never be in consideration for manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Milkman, Honestly I dont know. I dont keep a running tally of who did what in their previous coaching careers. Dave Martinez, Sandy Alomar and Robin Ventura, never managed a MLB team. If you want to say that being a bench coach, 3b coach, whatever is equivalent experience to managing, that is your call. All I know is that (imo) Ventura is going to be a revelation compared to Ozzie. And win lose or draw, its going to be the players, not the manager who ultimately decide the success of a team. This is not the NBA/NFL where a Head Coach can significantly change the dynamic of a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W1CK3D Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 The more and more Kenny talks, the more and more I like this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Adam Dunn will eat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I dont really understand this move, I was caught totally off guard by it too, but I'm not flipping out about it either. MLB managing really isn't rocket science. Stay off the short bus and I'm fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilCan Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 And one of my favorite White Sox becomes the new Manager. WOW. What a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Robin sounds as surprised as anyone that he was hired. I hope his heart is really into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 why does he keep saying convicted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I completely agree with this article: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_leagu...maining-content Where this decision deserves scorn is that Tampa Bay bench coach Dave Martinez was thought to be the frontrunner for the job. It would have been a natural fit as the ex-Sock had been learning under Joe Maddon, knows plenty about winning without a lot of resources and, perhaps most importantly for Reinsdorf, would come on the cheap. The Pale Hose are instead going with a choice that all but indicates they think they have no shot of winning in the near future. That may actually be true given the team's age and perhaps White Sox brass wanted the anti-Ozzie after eight years of dealing with all the extra baggage that Guillen brought to the table. But if this had been their plan all along, why hadn't Ventura been managing in the team's minor league system prior to this? Simple explanation: Reinsdorf, the man who allowed Jerry Krause to tell Michael Jordan that "organizations win championships," doesn't want to be told how to do anything. It will also likely save him quite a bit of dough as he continues to pay for Adam Dunn, Jake Peavy and Alex Rios. As for Williams, he'll finally get the spotlight that Guillen hogged for so long. There will be no doubt who's running the show next season. But as our own Jeff Passan alluded, this is a Faustian gamble — as in Gerry — in every sense of the term. Fans aren't owed much, but a manager with a little experience leading men old enough to vote is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 "Accountability" There's another crazy idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 05:27 PM) Robin sounds as surprised as anyone that he was hired. I hope his heart is really into this. He's not coming across too well. Seems like both he and Kenny are stressing that he's going to need a lot of support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 11:31 PM) He's not coming across too well. Seems like both he and Kenny are stressing that he's going to need a lot of support. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Robin really isn't inspiring me with this presser. He seems just as surprised as all of us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Frank has not been talked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I think Kenny wanted Martinez, but Jerry set a price and Robin was the only candidate to fit in the price range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 When asked if he's talked to Frank Thomas, he said ,"No." Then says he's trusting the people around him to put the best possible pieces together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Phil Rogers: "Sounds like you're in the deep end Robin" Robin: "Yup, but I can swim Phil." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Its impossible to know what Martinez would have wanted as Im not sure the Sox even spoke with him. And no one knows if Ventura was cheap or not, previously hes turned down all coaching offers, so youd have to imagine that they offered at least a decent salary to get him to change his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Guess where the Sox open 2012? Robin is coming back for vengeance!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Insight into Robin : "I'm not a big rules guy". "I haven't really talked to Kenny about that yet" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Just please spare me the Batman jokes... Good for you Robin...now show us something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderBolt Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I ADORE Robin Ventura, but i don't get this at all. What the hell was the hurry? Why didn't we give the worthier options (Martinez, Alomar) a solid chance. Why did we hire a guy with no experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 05:39 PM) Insight into Robin : "I'm not a big rules guy". "I haven't really talked to Kenny about that yet" He doesn't seem like a very inspiring guy so far..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 God, neither Kenny and Robin sound confident at all right now. There's something more going on here... I just got that feeling. This can't be what either party wanted and it shows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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