Steve9347 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Cowley will be on the Score at either 10:40 or 11:40, I am not sure what I heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:33 AM) Cowley will be on the Score at either 10:40 or 11:40, I am not sure what I heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Going to bed, keep the updates comming for the later read when I get the popcorn ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:30 AM) I heard KW with Pat on WGN this morning and was like: wow. Man what is it with Cowley and Ozzie/KW? Is Ozzie paying him? I read the Cowley column and he kept quoting "major league sources" and all I could think of was: WHAT major league sources? Who outside of the Sox would know WTF is going on between Ozzie/Coop/KW? That said, Coop has been the one guy throughout all this that has been... consistent. His work speaks for itself. Read any Cowley column. He never says who his sources are. That's because it's the same couple of people every time. It's blatantly obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSoxFan Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 That's what I'm getting at Milkman: his sources are either Ozzie or one of the kids, if I had to guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:39 AM) That's what I'm getting at Milkman: his sources are either Ozzie or one of the kids, if I had to guess. Or, more likely, both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:39 AM) That's what I'm getting at Milkman: his sources are either Ozzie or one of the kids, if I had to guess. One current player comes to mind, AJ. Other than that, I don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 This is what I said in the Ventura thread, but I think it fits here. LOL, could this be any more obvious to anyone? “Coop is obviously now the GM, assistant GM, manager and pitching coach the way he’s been acting the last few weeks,” a member of the organization said late last week. -Ozzie Jr. A major-league coach outside the organization took it a step further Wednesday, saying the idea of all these rumored candidates floating out there “was complete BS. None of the candidates being mentioned even wanted a job where the pitching coach was going to have more years and maybe even more money than them.” -Ozzie or Cora (probably Ozzie) Another Sox source said there was a reason former manager Ozzie Guillen sent Cooper a text on the first of the two days he managed that read, “You finally got what you wanted.” It’s because by the time Guillen finally figured out who the Judas was, it was too late. The wheels were in motion. -Oney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...ancona-fan.html This is the Cooper interview with the Sun-Times that he referenced in the radio interview that apparently KW wasn't too happy with...but AAL IZ WELL now. Edited October 7, 2011 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 With those quotes and whom he attributes them to, it's incredibly easy to figure out who he's describing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:41 AM) This is what I said in the Ventura thread, but I think it fits here. LOL, could this be any more obvious to anyone? -Ozzie Jr. -Ozzie or Cora (probably Ozzie) -Oney One problem with the above is that Ozzie Jr wasn't a "member of the organization" late last week, but I don't disagree that the Guillens feed the beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 So you had a GM and Manager that hated each other, a Manager and a pitching coach that didn't trust each other, and players that were pissed about all the drama going on? I am definitely excited for a new era of White Sox baseball with the focus is on the field and not off of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:44 AM) One problem with the above is that Ozzie Jr wasn't a "member of the organization" late last week, but I don't disagree that the Guillens feed the beast. Yeah, but Cowley isn't going to give exact details. Right Marty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:44 AM) One problem with the above is that Ozzie Jr wasn't a "member of the organization" late last week, but I don't disagree that the Guillens feed the beast. He's not still officially one of the Spanish announcers? And even if not, we don't know when those quotes were taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:46 AM) So you had a GM and Manager that hated each other, a Manager and a pitching coach that didn't trust each other, and players that were pissed about all the drama going on? I am definitely excited for a new era of White Sox baseball with the focus is on the field and not off of it. This. Imagine how the team could have performed this year if everyone was on the same page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Is there any doubt now that some of the moves made during the season by Ozzie were to try and put the spotlight on Kenny (ie: having Dunn ph in 9th inning)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:50 AM) Is there any doubt now that some of the moves made during the season by Ozzie were to try and put the spotlight on Kenny (ie: having Dunn ph in 9th inning)? There is no doubt in my mind they both spent the summer trying to hang each other. None. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 11:46 AM) So you had a GM and Manager that hated each other, a Manager and a pitching coach that didn't trust each other, and players that were pissed about all the drama going on? I am definitely excited for a new era of White Sox baseball with the focus is on the field and not off of it. Really...Robin Ventura being added to the Kenny Williams mix suggests to you that the focus will be back "On the field an d not off it"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 The dysfunctionality of the White Sox under Ozzie getting exposed. Great! Have fun Loria and Marlin fans....and good riddance to Ozzie and his entire circus of a family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:53 AM) Really...Robin Ventura being added to the Kenny Williams mix suggests to you that the focus will be back "On the field an d not off it"? Putting a guy on the bench who totally focused on the game while he played it versus a guy who never met a camera he didn't dry hump? I have no doubt that the focus will be back on the field, because there won't be the stupidity going on off of it. Ventura hated dealing with the media, and has always been an intensely private person. There won't be anything else to talk about, except what happens on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Wanne @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:55 AM) The dysfunctionality of the White Sox under Ozzie getting exposed. Great! Have fun Loria and Marlin fans....and good riddance to Ozzie and his entire circus of a family. It's unfortunate the other half is still here making "bold" decisions hiring gutty guys like Ventura with no experience nor idea how to handle a Major League ballclub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 10:58 AM) It's unfortunate the other half is still here making "bold" decisions hiring gutty guys like Ventura with no experience nor idea how to handle a Major League ballclub. I blame it on JR and his ridiculous level of loyalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 How does Ozzie dare calling himself Chicago tough, when that f***ing idiot quit on the team in June. Chicago tough is not quitting on your team NO MATTER what circumstances. SO GLAD HE IS GONE, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 04:55 PM) Putting a guy on the bench who totally focused on the game while he played it versus a guy who never met a camera he didn't dry hump? I have no doubt that the focus will be back on the field, because there won't be the stupidity going on off of it. Ventura hated dealing with the media, and has always been an intensely private person. There won't be anything else to talk about, except what happens on the field. Well said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 04:58 PM) It's unfortunate the other half is still here making "bold" decisions hiring gutty guys like Ventura with no experience nor idea how to handle a Major League ballclub. True, but I do think it's pretty valid to assume a more disciplined organization with ozzie gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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