southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:33 PM) Cowley reports the truth, the Oz truth, and nothing but the truth. So help him Oney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:35 PM) The more he talks, the less he sounds like a "journalist" and more like someone with a grudge acting as a journalist. He worked under Jay Mariotti and learned his trade. There really isn't much more that can be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) I hate that Cowley has turned himself into the story. AGAIN. This is his dying breath as a White Sox columnist in this town. His gravy-train is in Miami, and the only stories he'll have to tell will be stories of the Ozzie-days, including this one that he "broke" today. Either way, this organization is becoming more of a joke by the day. We all knew the Ozzie divorce wouldn't be pretty, but really, the house should have been cleaned, Hahn should have been promoted, and Hahn should have made the hiring decision. This becomes more clear by the nanosecond. Edited October 7, 2011 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:39 PM) He worked under Jay Mariotti and learned his trade. There really isn't much more that can be said. Get yourself thrown out of locker rooms and cut off from almost all sources and then use that to justify your s***ty fact-free "journalism" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Coop calls Cowley a liar, but Coop did go to Williams for a contract extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:41 PM) Coop calls Cowley a liar, but Coop did go to Williams for a contract extension. Cooper said he asked Rick Hahn first. With Cowley's credibility, I'm more than willing to believe Coop instead. Edited October 7, 2011 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:41 PM) Coop calls Cowley a liar, but Coop did go to Williams for a contract extension. I think Coop is referring to Cowley saying that Coop was one of the leaders in getting Ozzie canned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I'll be honest, Cowley didn't come across bad in that interview. Cooper confirming the two parts of that story are going to add to Cowley stating he's telling the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:42 PM) I think Coop is referring to Cowley saying that Coop was one of the leaders in getting Ozzie canned. That is obvious to anyone but Joe Mariotti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:43 PM) I'll be honest, Cowley didn't come across bad in that interview. Cooper confirming the two parts of that story are going to add to Cowley stating he's telling the truth. I think the real beef is Cowley saying Cooper was a ring leader in getting Ozzie fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmbjeff Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:40 PM) I hate that Cowley has turned himself into the story. AGAIN. This is his dying breath as a White Sox columnist in this town. His gravy-train is in Miami, and the only stories he'll have to tell will be stories of the Ozzie-days, including this one that he "broke" today. Either way, this organization is becoming more of a joke by the day. We all knew the Ozzie divorce wouldn't be pretty, but really, the house should have been cleaned, Hahn should have been promoted, and Hahn should have made the hiring decision. This becomes more clear by the nanosecond. Another thing about Cowardley that bothers me most is he isn't even the White Sox beat guy, Van Schouwen is. Cowardley was supposed to be the Cubs guy this year but I am sure once the CST realized Cowardley has no actual journalistic qualities to get a good story, they had him working the Guillen kids all year for info and basically became a White Sox beat guy again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:41 PM) Coop calls Cowley a liar, but Coop did go to Williams for a contract extension. Because.... the GM (not the manager) is the person who is responsible for negotiating contracts? Edited October 7, 2011 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (scenario @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:46 PM) Because.... the GM (not the manager) is the person who is responsible for negotiating contracts? and because Ozzie wasnt trying to get him an extention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:48 PM) and because Ozzie wasnt trying to get him an extention He was too busy trying to get his own. But apparently that is OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:46 PM) Another thing about Cowardley that bothers me most is he isn't even the White Sox beat guy, Van Schouwen is. Cowardley was supposed to be the Cubs guy this year but I am sure once the CST realized Cowardley has no actual journalistic qualities to get a good story, they had him working the Guillen kids all year for info and basically became a White Sox beat guy again. lol was Cowley really supposed to be the Cubs beat writer? I remember he was making fun of the Cubs before the season saying they had no chance and that all Cubs fans should convert to Sox fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:46 PM) Another thing about Cowardley that bothers me most is he isn't even the White Sox beat guy, Van Schouwen is. Cowardley was supposed to be the Cubs guy this year but I am sure once the CST realized Cowardley has no actual journalistic qualities to get a good story, they had him working the Guillen kids all year for info and basically became a White Sox beat guy again. False QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:55 PM) lol was Cowley really supposed to be the Cubs beat writer? I remember he was making fun of the Cubs before the season saying they had no chance and that all Cubs fans should convert to Sox fans. Nope. He's just a columnist now, he isn't on a beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Curious reply by Coop to the question of was he telling Williams what was being said in the clubhouse. "What was I saying that wasn't in the paper?" Not exactly a denial from Coop. You could see where this might tick people off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:57 PM) Curious reply by Coop to the question of was he telling Williams what was being said in the clubhouse. "What was I saying that wasn't in the paper?" Not exactly a denial from Coop. You could see where this might tick people off. He could have just read it on twitter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Hell hath no furry like a beat reporter scorned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:43 PM) I think the real beef is Cowley saying Cooper was a ring leader in getting Ozzie fired. People keep saying this. Am I missing something? I thought Ozzie chose to leave. Edited October 7, 2011 by Chet Kincaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 01:07 PM) People keep saying this. Am I missing something? I thought Ozzie chose to leave. It's a little bit of both really. Many, including KW, wanted him out, and once Ozzie found out he wasnt getting an extension he asked to leave. Semantically, he was released, but in reality he was let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 01:08 PM) It's a little bit of both really. Many, including KW, wanted him out, and once Ozzie found out he wasnt getting an extension he asked to leave. Semantically, he was released, but in reality he was let go. But he could have stayed for 2012 - just without an extension and on his last year, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxPride56 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:43 PM) I think the real beef is Cowley saying Cooper was a ring leader in getting Ozzie fired. Ozzie quit on the team, organization, and fans. He WAS NOT fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Ozzie's behavior created this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 You really gotta give it to Ozzie...he played Cowley like a $5 hooker...using his and Cowley's need for notoriety as his mouthpiece. It's actually kind of pathetic that Cowley bought into it with Ozzie deflecting what an ass Ozzie really was/is onto Cowley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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