iamshack Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 6, 2012 -> 06:38 PM) I think Cain's a legit sub 3.50 ERA guy in the AL as well. Lincecum...Cy Young level linecum was a sub-3 ERA pitcher in the AL, but he's been so inconsistent with his work ethic and it leads to those stretches where he gets shelled. Too much weed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchwarmerjim Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 11:39 PM) Boy are the Twins bad. How fast they fell. The other night I assumed they were going to hammer Detroit (after a nice lead), I watched the game only to see that was short lived. That has to be a frustrated city of fans. What are they going to wait for? Football season? No light at the end of that tunnel. for a bad team, they are surprisingly watchable, unlike last year. Every time Josh Willingham is at the plate, there is a chance the ball will go very far. Joe Mauer is quietly has a fine season. Trevor Plouffe has been flying high since June 1. Ben Revere is a little spark plug of a player. The bullpen is pretty good. But, a team will never win too many game without decent starting pitching. Outside of Scott Diamond, and lately Liriano (who will be traded by the deadline) they have no one who can get past the 4th inning with any consistency. Even though the Twins have been outscored by a staggering 89 runs, they have played 29 one run games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 QUOTE (soxmaniac! @ Jul 7, 2012 -> 01:29 AM) your use of question marks makes you come off as a condescending douche. just saying. This post made me smile; it was kind of funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 The Tigers are 20th in the Majors in home runs (76). This stat is appalling enough on its face, but made worse when you consider the fact that the Tigers were supposed to mash enough runs to overcome a shoddy defense. That hasn’t happened which is why they find themselves in third place. As much blame as people want to put on the second base position, the real issue is the triangle of the two corner outfield positions and the designated hitter. Right now, the regular starter in left is a combination of Ryan Raburn and Quintin Berry. The two have a total of two home runs. The starting right fielder is Brennan Boesch, who has gone deep eight times. And the DH is Delmon Young, who has chipped in with 7. That’s a grand total of 16 home runs from three positions which are normally counted on to produce good power numbers. Unacceptable on most teams, but certainly more unacceptable on a team like the Tigers that gives away runs with bad defense. Is help on the way? Not within the organization. At some point, Andy Dirks will return, although there’s no timetable for that and his time on the disabled list has already lasted much longer than expected. So the help needs to come from the bat of the Padres’ Carlos Quentin. He’s the biggest name with the biggest bat that’s currently on the market. So the asking price might be high. But the need is pretty high too. If the Tigers are going to spend leading up to the trade deadline, they’re better off spending on picking up some power over picking up some pitching. http://www.freep.com/article/20120707/SPOR...7001/1050/rss15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ Jul 7, 2012 -> 03:57 PM) for a bad team, they are surprisingly watchable, unlike last year. Every time Josh Willingham is at the plate, there is a chance the ball will go very far. Joe Mauer is quietly has a fine season. Trevor Plouffe has been flying high since June 1. Ben Revere is a little spark plug of a player. The bullpen is pretty good. But, a team will never win too many game without decent starting pitching. Outside of Scott Diamond, and lately Liriano (who will be traded by the deadline) they have no one who can get past the 4th inning with any consistency. Even though the Twins have been outscored by a staggering 89 runs, they have played 29 one run games. Jim, where do you think Liriano could end up? Hearing any rumors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 8, 2012 -> 10:28 AM) Jim, where do you think Liriano could end up? Hearing any rumors? http://isportsweb.com/2012/07/02/francisco...o-trade-rumors/ (S)everal teams, including the Braves, Yankees and Blue Jays scouted his start on July 1st. Other teams that could have an interest in the southpaw include the Detroit Tigers, Los Angeles Dodgers, Boston Red Sox and Texas Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 QUOTE (knightni @ Jul 8, 2012 -> 09:35 AM) http://isportsweb.com/2012/07/02/francisco...o-trade-rumors/ I would have sworn your name was Jeremy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 No celebrations for Chris Perez today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 8, 2012 -> 03:08 PM) No celebrations for Chris Perez today. It's normal to give up a triple to Carlos Pena, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Rangers beat the Twins in 13. 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 8, 2012 -> 07:42 PM) It's normal to give up a triple to Carlos Pena, right? More normal than Rafael Belliard hitting a homer I suppose. Edited July 9, 2012 by WilliamTell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2...ering_grie.html Union/Indians' Hagadone might be filing a grievance over pay. Interesting case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Jul 8, 2012 -> 11:27 PM) More normal than Rafael Belliard hitting a homer I suppose. Digging in the stats vault! Or you are old as f***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Keep hearing different things on #Tigers. The latest: They can't find a second baseman they like, so they'll focus more on pitching. Fluid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Tigers: Finally clicking or beating up on the weak Twins, Royals and over-achieving Orioles? (-41 RD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Don't think it'll jinx us, hope not, but Hosmer of the Royals is really sucking. Had another horrible game tonight. Looks lost. You got to wonder WTF. His second season as a pro has been very bad and he's not making any progress at all. I will say, Moustakas and Sal Perez look like real players as does Cain and their shortstop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 14, 2012 -> 02:06 AM) Don't think it'll jinx us, hope not, but Hosmer of the Royals is really sucking. Had another horrible game tonight. Looks lost. You got to wonder WTF. His second season as a pro has been very bad and he's not making any progress at all. I will say, Moustakas and Sal Perez look like real players as does Cain and their shortstop. Alcides Escobar might be the best shortstop in baseball before it's all said and done. Part of Greinke deal, along with Cain in CF. http://www.kansascity.com/2012/07/12/37025...s-approach.html Starting to wonder if Moore will survive a 4th or 5th place finish. Article discusses pros and cons of trading Broxton, Francouer (blocking Myers), Betancourt and Mijares. Edited July 14, 2012 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benchwarmerjim Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Fransisco Liriano had 15 strikeouts (8 of the first 9 batters k'd) last night. Outside of a walk then a hanging changeup, he was filthy. He has been trending toward the good side of things, and I think the Twins should sell high on him. But will other teams give up good prospects for a guy who have super high and super low valleys remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ Jul 14, 2012 -> 06:00 AM) Fransisco Liriano had 15 strikeouts (8 of the first 9 batters k'd) last night. Outside of a walk then a hanging changeup, he was filthy. He has been trending toward the good side of things, and I think the Twins should sell high on him. But will other teams give up good prospects for a guy who have super high and super low valleys remains to be seen. Please trade him before the White Sox have to face him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 So the Tigers have won 6 in a row and only gained what a half a game? That's gotta sting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 QUOTE (Cali @ Jul 14, 2012 -> 11:47 AM) So the Tigers have won 6 in a row and only gained what a half a game? That's gotta sting Just noticed it was Fister who pitched a good game last night. We don't need that to continue. So through 81, they were 39-42. Now 6-0 in the actual second half. If they finish in the 90 win area, that would be a 'tip your cap' second half. Sox just need to make sure they finish with 91-93 wins, and not hand anything to Detroit the final 10 head-to-head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Jimenez is proving to be a major disaster for the Indians. Not only because of the contract they're inheriting, but also because of the pitching talent they gave up. 8-2 Blue Jays. Rocked to about the same extent the White Sox got to him. So we'll enter tonight's game with a 3 1/2 game lead on them...and either 3 or 4 on DET. Scherzer's pitching for the Tigers against CHEN (not Bruce's cousin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Smyly back on DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 14, 2012 -> 02:13 PM) Smyly back on DL. blister again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Smyly to the DL open the way for Dempster to get traded there? I think it's a rib injury for Smyly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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