fathom Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 That's a fantastic deal for the Twins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 15, 2011 -> 10:41 AM) That's a fantastic deal for the Twins. They are also getting 3 much needed draft picks by letting Cuddyer and Kubel walk. The Twins are in a bad place. Bad major league club, and a bad farm system on top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Willingham is the anti-twins player. Good power, but man does he ever strike out too much. I dont know how that will sit with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 15, 2011 -> 11:51 AM) Willingham is the anti-twins player. Good power, but man does he ever strike out too much. I dont know how that will sit with them They seemed to be OK with Thome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I would have no problem with the Twins slipping into another decade or so of irrelevance after their run recently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (Cali @ Dec 15, 2011 -> 01:15 PM) I would have no problem with the Twins slipping into another decade or so of irrelevance after their run recently... They could be right back on top next year if their 2 MVP's play like MVP's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2011 -> 12:19 PM) They could be right back on top next year if their 2 MVP's play like MVP's. And so could the White Sox if Rios, Dunn, Peavy play up to their all-star level too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 15, 2011 -> 10:19 AM) They could be right back on top next year if their 2 MVP's play like MVP's. I have serious doubts that either will be the same player they once were ever again. Concussions are nothing to mess with and can end careers. One fastball that gets away from a pitcher high and tight. A takeout slide on a double play. A collision at home. Anyone of those things could end Morneau's career and you know he's thinking about it. Mauer, even when healthy after the move to Target Field lost all his power and now he's breaking down health wise behind the plate. You either have to move him to first, and move Morneau to DH or vice versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 JoeCStrib JoeChristensen That early morning optimism #Twins had of keeping Cuddyer has faded. As Denver Post reports, the #Rockies are the favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 JeffPassan Jeff Passan Even with Joel Zumaya coming off an injury, an official expects he gets major league deal. Sat 94-96 in workout -- and velo still building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 BenBadler Ben Badler Having too much fun talking to scouts about Tigers RHP Bruce Rondon. Listed at 270 lbs, hits 101 mph, plus life ... not a strike-thrower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 15, 2011 -> 12:00 PM) They seemed to be OK with Thome. Hard to really compare those two. Willingham is going to be an everyday starter, not a sometime DH. Plus, Thome is one of the greatest power hitters of his generation, even into the twilight of his career. Willingham is a good power hitter, but he seemingly wont have the luxury that Thome had with Kubel and Cuddyer in the lineup picking him up when he slumps. Willingham whiffed 150 times last year, thats a lot of wasted opportunities, and the Twins org doesnt really like to waste any opportunities. I could be wrong, he could have a Hardy revival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 JoeCStrib JoeChristensen #Twins turn their attention back to Kubel; increased their efforts to re-sign him late this week: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 DKnobler DKnobler Tigers announce Al Alburquerque has elbow surgery, will miss start of season DKnobler DKnobler On Alburquerque, he had a screw inserted because of non-displaced stress fracture. Will start throwing "latter part of spring training" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 freeptigers Freep Tigers Tigs head athletic trainer Kevin Rand says Alburquerque & Zumaya elbow surgeries "similar." Zumaya:clean break;Alburquerque:stress fracture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Does it seem to anyone else that pitchers are getting hurt with more regularity in the last few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 02:39 PM) Does it seem to anyone else that pitchers are getting hurt with more regularity in the last few years? Yes. My theory is that most are getting to the majors too quickly and either should have 1) developed more stamina and strength in the minors or 2) been injured in the minors and never made it to the majors. In the 50's, 60's and 70's there are always stories of guys who could throw in the upper 90's but never made it to the majors because they were injured in the minors. They didn't have the stamina to repeat their delivery for a season but would wash out. In today's game, these pitcher's are pushed ahead and break down in the majors when they shoudln't even has made it that far. We have this discussion among AT's all the time. Some say not enough throwing, some too much "pressure" throwing. There are many theories but one thing is for sure, today's pitcher's aren't as durable as they should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 hoynsie paul hoynes #Indians trade with San Diego is confirmed. Tribe gets OF Aaron Cunningham for right-hander Cory Burns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 hoynsie paul hoynes #Indians invite Felix Pie and Jose Lopez to spring training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 02:59 PM) Yes. My theory is that most are getting to the majors too quickly and either should have 1) developed more stamina and strength in the minors or 2) been injured in the minors and never made it to the majors. In the 50's, 60's and 70's there are always stories of guys who could throw in the upper 90's but never made it to the majors because they were injured in the minors. They didn't have the stamina to repeat their delivery for a season but would wash out. In today's game, these pitcher's are pushed ahead and break down in the majors when they shoudln't even has made it that far. We have this discussion among AT's all the time. Some say not enough throwing, some too much "pressure" throwing. There are many theories but one thing is for sure, today's pitcher's aren't as durable as they should be. Interesting stuff, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 09:07 AM) Hard to really compare those two. Willingham is going to be an everyday starter, not a sometime DH. Plus, Thome is one of the greatest power hitters of his generation, even into the twilight of his career. Willingham is a good power hitter, but he seemingly wont have the luxury that Thome had with Kubel and Cuddyer in the lineup picking him up when he slumps. Willingham whiffed 150 times last year, thats a lot of wasted opportunities, and the Twins org doesnt really like to waste any opportunities. I could be wrong, he could have a Hardy revival Trading away Hardy for a so-so middle reliever, not replacing him at all (the Japanese MI failed miserably) and then having to admit the wrongness of the Delmon Young deal...those deals, along with totally gutting the bullpen with the exception of inexplicably bringing back Capps (to justify the trade)....goodbye, Mr. Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddling Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) Michael Cuddyer leaving the AL was the best present this Sox fan can receive. Now when the Twins have bases loaded down by two outs in the ninth I don't have to watch him kill us again and again. Edited December 17, 2011 by juddling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 QUOTE (juddling @ Dec 17, 2011 -> 01:38 AM) Michael Cuddyer leaving the AL was the best present this Sox fan can receive. Now when the Twins have bases loaded down by two stop in the ninth I don't have to watch him kill us again and again. They'll find someone else. They always do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juddling Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2011 -> 08:18 AM) They'll find someone else. They always do. Hopefully they didn't in Willingham...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 17, 2011 -> 09:18 AM) They'll find someone else. They always do. Lew Ford coming back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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