southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick The deal includes several club options that could raise value to $37.5M over 8 years. It could top $40M if he hits escalators. #Rays reach agreement with pitcher Matt Moore on 5-year, guaranteed $14M contract, source says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 ChiTribSports ChiTribSports Yankees sign Freddy Garcia to one-year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 09:59 AM) jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick The deal includes several club options that could raise value to $37.5M over 8 years. It could top $40M if he hits escalators. #Rays reach agreement with pitcher Matt Moore on 5-year, guaranteed $14M contract, source says Very similar to what they did with Evan Longoria. Smart move, as long as his arm holds up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 01:45 PM) Very similar to what they did with Evan Longoria. Smart move, as long as his arm holds up. $14 mil guaranteed isn't a big loss even if his arm doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 SPTimesRays Marc Topkin Annual sals for #Rays Moore on new deal: $1M in '12, $1M ' 13, $1M '14, $3M '15, $5M '16, $7M option '17, $9.5M option '18, $10M option '19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 02:19 PM) SPTimesRays Marc Topkin Annual sals for #Rays Moore on new deal: $1M in '12, $1M ' 13, $1M '14, $3M '15, $5M '16, $7M option '17, $9.5M option '18, $10M option '19 Wow, great deal. Even if his arm falls off tomorrow, there's no year that really cripples their payroll. But if he pitches anywhere near to his potential, that's possibly the contract of the decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 03:11 PM) Wow, great deal. Even if his arm falls off tomorrow, there's no year that really cripples their payroll. But if he pitches anywhere near to his potential, that's possibly the contract of the decade. They could get 6 years of Moore for 2 years of Buehrle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 That is one well-run organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 That is one well-run organization. I'm VictoryMC98 and I approve this Message! 5 years ago they were the laughing stock of baseball.. now the envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Jon_Heyman Jon Heyman #dbacks making progress on trevor cahill talks. 1st reported by @Gambo620 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 03:46 PM) Jon_Heyman Jon Heyman #dbacks making progress on trevor cahill talks. 1st reported by @Gambo620 Rosenthal is saying Jarrod Parker & Colin Cowgill are potentially included in the trade. I'm not a prospect guy, but those names sound familiar. Aren't they some of the DBacks top prospects? I'm not a big fan of Cahill, I think his 2010 season had a bit of smoke & mirrors tint to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) Rosenthal is saying Jarrod Parker & Colin Cowgill are potentially included in the trade. I'm not a prospect guy, but those names sound familiar. Aren't they some of the DBacks top prospects? I'm not a big fan of Cahill, I think his 2010 season had a bit of smoke & mirrors tint to it. Even more reason for Billy to deal him, for what some fool (Towers) is willing to give up. Edited December 9, 2011 by VictoryMC98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I didn't realize how stacked the DBacks were with pitching prospects. Dang. I like Cahill, good trade for them. They're a strong team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 02:08 PM) I'm not a big fan of Cahill, I think his 2010 season had a bit of smoke & mirrors tint to it. The hitters were so baffled by his resemblance to Bobby Hill that they just couldn't hit the ball with any authority... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 QUOTE (Cali @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 06:57 PM) The hitters were so baffled by his resemblance to Bobby Hill that they just couldn't hit the ball with any authority... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AnS4..._marlins_120811 Can't believe that the Marlins were willing to offer $275 million for Pujols. Crazy. Maybe Albert doesn't like Mr. Guillen so much (or he values more stable clubhouse environments), because supposedly the Cards were offering $210 and he got an extra $44 million for his charity to go to LA. But still left another $21 million on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 QUOTE (3E8 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 06:22 PM) I didn't realize how stacked the DBacks were with pitching prospects. Dang. I like Cahill, good trade for them. They're a strong team. Cahill's high GB rate is a good fit for that park. However, that Arizona infield isn't the 2010 Oakland defense. Cahill was great in 2010 because the A's had a hell of a infield defense to support his high GB rates. Arizona's rotation is looking good, Cahill is a pretty good pitcher for a #3 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Don't forget too how young Cahill is (less than 1 year older than the prospect we just traded for). He's still several years away from his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Good deal for both teams. I still can't comprehend how far Arizona has come in such a short amount of time. They looked done and directionless just a couple years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 03:40 PM) I'm VictoryMC98 and I approve this Message! 5 years ago they were the laughing stock of baseball.. now the envy. I used to give most of the credit to all of the top 10 draft picks the Rays had. Those picks definitely made it easier, and they suffered through tons of awful seasons, but they have done so much else right, they deserve tons of credit. Plus, the Pirates & Royals have had the same top picks and they both still suck ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 9, 2011 -> 11:27 PM) I used to give most of the credit to all of the top 10 draft picks the Rays had. Those picks definitely made it easier, and they suffered through tons of awful seasons, but they have done so much else right, they deserve tons of credit. Plus, the Pirates & Royals have had the same top picks and they both still suck ass. Other than Longoria, Price and Upton (the latter being a perpetual underachiever), their entire roster during the last 4 years has consisted of late or non first-round picks all together. And I mean guys that they've drafted. To get to the post-season three times in four years with their payroll in that division? That's incredible scouting, keen shrewdness and mastering the art of cornering the bargain-basement market. Edited December 10, 2011 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 10, 2011 -> 12:45 AM) Other than Longoria, Price and Upton (the latter being a perpetual underachiever), their entire roster during the last 4 years has consisted of late or non first-round picks all together. And I mean guys that they've drafted. To get to the post-season three times in four years with their payroll in that division? That's incredible scouting, keen shrewdness and mastering the art of cornering the bargain-basement market. I still have no idea how they made the playoffs last season...I had the Jays winning more games than the Rays...they lost Crawford, Pena, their entire bullpen, and replaced everything in-house, basically. Crazy that they managed to come back and win that division, Red Sox collapse or no collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 10, 2011 -> 12:52 AM) I still have no idea how they made the playoffs last season...I had the Jays winning more games than the Rays...they lost Crawford, Pena, their entire bullpen, and replaced everything in-house, basically. Crazy that they managed to come back and win that division, Red Sox collapse or no collapse. Proof that scouting acumen and money into development works. They may not draft top 10 anymore, and they may not have success with every top 10 draft pick, but they will find talent in the draft and get it MLB ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Amn6...s_losers_120811 Winter Meetings Winners and Losers Edited December 10, 2011 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 10, 2011 -> 12:52 AM) I still have no idea how they made the playoffs last season...I had the Jays winning more games than the Rays...they lost Crawford, Pena, their entire bullpen, and replaced everything in-house, basically. Crazy that they managed to come back and win that division, Red Sox collapse or no collapse. There was obviously some luck and good fortune involved. But on paper, they never should've been in striking distance in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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