southsider2k5 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,3483314.story The White Sox have taken a hit for not producing a steady flow of players from Latin America, but general manager Ken Williams is taking a hands-on approach now. Williams recently left on a scouting mission, according to two sources, and will make a stop in the Dominican Republic. Despite the firing of Dave Wilder and the departure of legendary scout Jerry Krause to the Diamondbacks in the last three years, Williams has defended the Sox efforts in Latin America and recently pointed to the signings of Cubans Alexei Ramirez and Dayan Viciedo. But it's rare for Williams to make a trip to Latin America to scout. "We don't discriminate where we get the talent, wherever it can make an impact," Williams said Tuesday at a news conference introducing Robin Ventura as manager. "In 2004, we needed to figure out a way to get one more player to get us over the top, that player was (Tadahito) Iguchi." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 What did Legendary Jerry provide? Im just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeFabregas Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 A recognizable name for this news story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I think this is a good thing. It shows KW's commitment. It's like a member of management getting off of his ass and going out to the floor to see first hand what is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Oct 17, 2011 -> 10:35 AM) I think this is a good thing. It shows KW's commitment. It's like a member of management getting off of his ass and going out to the floor to see first hand what is going on. If you're working down there...it's also sending a message to have the top guy come to look over your shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 The farm system was at its best when Kenny was over there. Hopefully this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 17, 2011 -> 08:37 AM) What did Legendary Jerry provide? Im just curious Ozzie Guillen. May be a good or bad thing. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 17, 2011 -> 10:01 AM) The farm system was at its best when Kenny was over there. Hopefully this helps. For being such a prospect trading heavy/barren farm system GM, Kenny was a really, really good minor league director. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Two words: Cuba Libre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 17, 2011 -> 11:57 AM) Ozzie Guillen. May be a good or bad thing. For being such a prospect trading heavy/barren farm system GM, Kenny was a really, really good minor league director. It would have been really interesting to see the arc of the franchise if guys like Wright and Barcelo stayed healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Oct 17, 2011 -> 08:35 AM) I think this is a good thing. It shows KW's commitment. It's like a member of management getting off of his ass and going out to the floor to see first hand what is going on. Kenny's commitment was never an issue. It's his philosophy I question. Is he going to find another DH or 1B? Or another guy totally clueless about the fundamentals of the game? At least there's a better chance he won't find another football player who happens to play baseball on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHITESOXRANDY Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 That's good that they realized they were able to acquire 3 difference makers in 7 years. Maybe, if they really try they could double or triple that like the other big league teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 It's called vacation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 QUOTE (sircaffey @ Oct 17, 2011 -> 10:27 PM) It's called vacation. To the Dominican Republic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 17, 2011 -> 11:09 PM) To the Dominican Republic? Hell yeah. I love the DR. One of my favorite vacation locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Williams has defended the Sox efforts in Latin America and recently pointed to the signings of Cubans Alexei Ramirez and Dayan Viciedo. But it's rare for Williams to make a trip to Latin America to scout. I'll let Flash chime in on this, but I believe it was the Dominican Republic that was more of an issue of the sox lack of a talent find. (much more very good Dominican players/prospects than say Cubans or even Venezuelans, another issue) Hence the whole "where's our Liriano" saying a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Maybe he's looking at the next Jon Garland or Jeff Marquez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:33 AM) Maybe he's looking at the next Jon Garland or Jeff Marquez. There are that many Californians in Central America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I don't mean to sound cynical but I wonder how big Kenny's entourage is. Probably a vacation for the whole family on the company tab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:59 AM) I don't mean to sound cynical but I wonder how big Kenny's entourage is. Probably a vacation for the whole family on the company tab. Probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) Maybe he's trying to find winter ball homes for both of his sons? Of course, with the pressure that is placed on those teams to win right away (and with the plethora of major league players mixed in), they certainly won't last very long. Once again, we get another reference to Iguchi and 2005, which was such a fluke thing because KW merely watched video of him from Japan, not ever having personally scouted him. Edited October 19, 2011 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Everytime I see this headline I wonder if he's really hiking the Appalachian Trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:03 AM) Everytime I see this headline I wonder if he's really hiking the Appalachian Trail. Are you saying KW's actually having an affair with an Argentinian woman but pretending to be in the D.R.? Would be pretty hard to prove he's actually there unless you're with NCIS or CSI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 20, 2011 -> 02:16 AM) Are you saying KW's actually having an affair with an Argentinian woman but pretending to be in the D.R.? Would be pretty hard to prove he's actually there unless you're with NCIS or CSI. That is too funny. Our ex governor says hello. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 The White Sox have taken a hit for not producing a steady flow of players from Latin America, but general manager Ken Williams is taking a hands-on approach now. Williams recently left on a scouting mission, according to two sources, and will make a stop in the Dominican Republic. Just reading between the lines, it doesn't mention scouting baseball players it just mentions a hands on approach and taking a hit. I'm guessing he's looking for someone he can round the bases with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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