SI1020 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 03:51 PM) Now it makes sense why Coop wasn't given serious consideration for the manager's job. Kenny didn't have a spy to take his place. Your act, whoever you are is tiresome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (SI1020 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:14 PM) Your act, whoever you are is tiresome. Because you can't take even the slightest hint of criticism of Kenny Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:31 PM) Because you can't take even the slightest hint of criticism of Kenny Williams. Just stop the pain, please. Most of the people you accuse of loving KW have, in this very forum, criticized the heck out of him. Do you not wonder why it is that you are virtually alone (+greg775) in your absurd defenses of Ozzie? Do you think that everyone else is somehow in love with Kenny Williams, when a poll taken on SoxTalk a while back showed a majority here would like to see him gone, or at least out of the GM seat? Do you not see the disconnect in your logic here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI1020 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 03:31 AM) Because you can't take even the slightest hint of criticism of Kenny Williams. How would you have the slightest idea what I really think of the White Sox GM? You're making an assumption that you shouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:36 PM) Just stop the pain, please. Most of the people you accuse of loving KW have, in this very forum, criticized the heck out of him. Do you not wonder why it is that you are virtually alone (+greg775) in your absurd defenses of Ozzie? Do you think that everyone else is somehow in love with Kenny Williams, when a poll taken on SoxTalk a while back showed a majority here would like to see him gone, or at least out of the GM seat? Do you not see the disconnect in your logic here? Show me where I have defended Guillen in the last 6+ weeks. You are making things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (SI1020 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:41 PM) How would you have the slightest idea what I really think of the White Sox GM? You're making an assumption that you shouldn't. What is this "act" of mine that you are tired of then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Naivety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (qwerty @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:49 PM) Naivety. God I love when qwerty posts. So simple, yet brilliant. Obligatory "post more" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (qwerty @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:49 PM) Naivety. Can you amplify on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:51 PM) Can you amplify on this? See posts=1283 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 07:43 PM) 1) Yes! 2) Then can I call Ozzie a chihuahua (all bark and no bite), Harold a panda, and Herm a penguin? Ok, I will. The rat who circumvented his boss to demand and extension...got fired. The guy who went to his boss and asked for one is still here. Or maybe because he's a brilliant pitching coach? It would be beneficial to everyone involved if you put some thought into your posts. Cooper, Baines, and all the non Cora/Cox/Walker coaches got fired. Ozzie quit. No legitimate back up info! QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 07:44 PM) If by "Hired by chairman Reinsdorf" you mean "Hired by Kenny Williams", since the GM, you know, does hires. He is a poor journalist. He editorializes (slight pass as a columnist), he tells a one-sided story, has told one story for a year now (despite the fact that he is no longer the writer for just the Sox), he mocks the local fan base, makes s*** up for a story, and has been banned from the White Sox front office and suspended from the BBWAA for a reason. Was it news then when Oney aired Bobby's dirty laundry? Yes. Did it need to be editorialized? No. And you may be intelligent enough to realize Ozzie has an agenda when you read and/or write these stories, but a lot of people taken written word as gospel, due to the "believe none of what you hear, half of what you read" saying. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 07:44 PM) Ok...if "some coaches" are Cora, Cox, and Walker...Cora was going to be with Ozzie wherever he went, Cox is a bad 3B coach, and Walker was terrible as a hitting coach. Maybe they we're jealous. But the one, maybe four, coaches who didn't trust him are fired. His is, "Don" Cooper, after all. Seriously? That's the most bulls*** backup ever. You might as well say they didn't trust him with their cupcake recipe. Kenny doesn't need one. He works right up the f***ing stairs. BUT HE DONE NEED A SPY! QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 07:44 PM) You're making the judgement that Cooper has low moral character and is a "spy" because of what Scribbles the Journalist (he does rough draft in crayon, according to my sources) and a loud mouth, egotistical, rat have said. NO HE DOESN'T Who would you give a longer deal? James Bond or M? Nope, Kenny just has to intuitively know what to do. Nah, can't be it. When snitches and spies, rats and lies are involved, there's a defense for ANYTHING. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 07:44 PM) It's also Kenny's right to let Ozzie quit, which he did, instead of keeping him miserable. There's obviously some spies in the clubhouse, since Cowley's sources (See: Guillen Clan) always revealed personal information about Kenny and ex-players. qwned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:54 PM) See posts=1283 I don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 05:36 PM) Problem is the spy got a longer contract than the new manager. Nope. Ozzie got a 4 year deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:55 PM) qwned. You are somewhat biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 07:07 PM) The only thing you may be missing is Cooper actually worked this year on the last year of his contract. Something Ozzie wouldn't do. Why didn't Ozzie make sure his coaches were signed as long as he has been? I can't see how its wrong or backstabbing for Cooper to be concerned about his future. Ozzie can't live on $2 million a year and Cooper makes nowhere near that, and he had no contract. He signed his extension after Ozzie left. Greg, I know it hurts, but your boy Ozzie really is dumb. His basically Oney with some gray hairs. And if someone puts me and Dick Allen together, you know they are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:56 PM) Nope. Ozzie got a 4 year deal. Cooper is the spy. Edited October 19, 2011 by Marty34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:21 PM) As a legit reporter, if he only has one side of the story, Cowley would have every right and ability to respond to those statements with additional skeptical questions regarding the other sides position. If Ozzie were to decline to answer those questions, then he could then report Ozzie refused to answer them. Reporting one side is ok, but that is not good journalism. But he won't because that is his only source... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:57 PM) Cooper is the spy. Funny, he doesn't have a twitter, or a job at the Sun Times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:58 PM) Funny, he doesn't have a twitter, or a job at the Sun Times... You can be a spy without those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:00 PM) You can be a spy without those things. And yet, you can still call people out for doing all of the things you have done yourself as a spy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:03 PM) And yet, you can still call people out for doing all of the things you have done yourself as a spy. Two wrongs don't make a right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:55 PM) qwned. Doubly so because of Qwerty. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:57 PM) And if someone puts me and Dick Allen together, you know they are wrong. Funny but true. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:03 PM) And yet, you can still call people out for doing all of the things you have done yourself as a spy. I'm still on the fence on this after rescinding my opinion he was Cowley, now, not so sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (qwerty @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:49 PM) Naivety. QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:51 PM) Can you amplify on this? QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:54 PM) See posts=1283 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:55 PM) I don't understand. QUOTE (qwerty @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 09:49 PM) Naivety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (qwerty @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:05 PM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 10:05 PM) Two wrongs don't make a right. Ok, he's Cowley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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