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Evaluating Terry Doyle


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QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 22, 2012 -> 01:28 PM)
FWIW, I asked K. Goldstein what the odds were that Terry would make the Twins 25-man roster, and he said very slim, so it appears there is a good chance we get him back! So maybe not protecting him won't come back to bite us in the ass.

 

Goldstein = worthless opinion

 

I'd like to know how many times he's seen him pitch.

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QUOTE (JPN366 @ Jan 22, 2012 -> 11:36 PM)
Goldstein = worthless opinion

 

I'd like to know how many times he's seen him pitch.

 

Probably zero. He isn't a scout, and doesn't claim to be. He has plenty of scout sources and contacts that have seem him pitch though. It's how he gets much of his information. That's okay. Kevin isn't the minority in not thinking a whole lot of Terry Doyle.

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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 23, 2012 -> 12:24 PM)
Probably zero. He isn't a scout, and doesn't claim to be. He has plenty of scout sources and contacts that have seem him pitch though. It's how he gets much of his information. That's okay. Kevin isn't the minority in not thinking a whole lot of Terry Doyle.

 

Innings eaters aren't gonna wow anybody, but if they get outs, they get outs.

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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 23, 2012 -> 12:24 PM)
Probably zero. He isn't a scout, and doesn't claim to be. He has plenty of scout sources and contacts that have seem him pitch though. It's how he gets much of his information. That's okay. Kevin isn't the minority in not thinking a whole lot of Terry Doyle.

 

Doyle seems like the proto-typical Twins pitcher.

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WhiteSoxTalkCSN White Sox Talk

Hahn basically says if Doyle makes it through 2012 on the Twins' MLB roster, you tip your hat to him in the face of the trends of R5 Draft.

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Hahn says the Sox didn't think Terry Doyle wouldn't be a factor in 2012. #SoxFest

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QUOTE (NHDadUmp-RI @ Feb 16, 2012 -> 01:31 PM)

 

 

Hey Terry's Dad ...

 

I've always enjoyed your posts about Terry and understand your great pride in his accomplishments.

 

I think many of us wish him great success. Because he's now a hated-Twinkie, I think the formula for success (our version) is a bit convoluted -- a really good spring training, clearly indicating he's major league ready, but because a few other prospects have even more lights-out spring trainings, the Twinks have no alternative other than to offer him back to the Sox. Now, realizing yet again that pitching success is more than just lighting up the gun, WE give Terry a legit shot ourselves.

 

On a more serious note, it still amazes me that a team so bereft of pitching talent and depth could so easily pass on giving a shot to arguably the most successful pitcher in last year's Arizona Fall League (perhaps the most notorious hitter's league of all hitter's leagues). It's not as if we're knee deep in pitching prospects who can consistently get good hitters out (no matter the reading on a gun or the subjective analysis of their overall "tools"). It boggles the mind that a team who watched Mark Buehrle pitch for all of these years (not saying that Terry is Mark, but I'm talking about pitchers who just know how to get batters out) couldn't even give this guy a real chance after his last couple of years. Then why sent him to the Arizona Fall league in the first place? And even if they didn't want him, then why not at least pretend to want him and trade him to the Twinks or some other team who fell in love with his Fall successes.

 

This is yet one other way where I think Kenny simply mismanages his assets. Even if you don't value something yourself -- parlay it into something REAL that you do value. We're far too lacking in resources (money and organizational talent depth) to be playing so fast and loose.

 

But I digress.

 

Good luck Terry. And you too Terry's Dad.

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Twins returned Rule 5 pick RHP Terry Doyle to the White Sox.Twins returned Rule 5 pick RHP Terry Doyle to the White Sox.

The Twins selected Doyle in December's Rule 5 draft, but the 26-year-old right-hander was knocked around for 10 runs on 14 hits over just 5 1/3 innings this spring. The White Sox paid $25,000 to get him back and he'll be assigned to Triple-A Charlotte.

 

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