southsider2k5 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 26, 2011 -> 08:26 AM) He's already there. We fired his hitting coach. And he was that hitting coach's biggest and only supporter towards the end. It is a massive step to go from another coach to a coach we already know he had personal problems with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan-kwman Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 (edited) Hiitting consultant, anything else & it would be too much. His ego is a lot bigger then the statue out in left field. Robin will help Beckham, Morel, & Rios regardless of who is hitting coach. Dunn, you got me?? Edited October 26, 2011 by soxfan-kwman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 QUOTE (soxfan-kwman @ Oct 26, 2011 -> 10:28 AM) Robin will help Beckham, Morel, & Rios regardless of who is hitting coach. Serious question...how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 26, 2011 -> 09:33 AM) Serious question...how? Apparently because he said he'd do so in one of his bumbling, clueless, searching for the right thing to say repeatedly interviews after his hiring. Back to Frank, I see no reason why he shouldn't get a shot somewhere if he wants to be a hitting coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 26, 2011 -> 09:49 AM) Apparently because he said he'd do so in one of his bumbling, clueless, searching for the right thing to say repeatedly interviews after his hiring. Back to Frank, I see no reason why he shouldn't get a shot somewhere if he wants to be a hitting coach. And to be fair if anyone can relate to horrible struggles at the major league level, it is a guy who had an 0-41 as a young player. I don't know how it will play with Dunn and Rios, but I have high hopes of Robin being able to give something to Morel and Beckham specifically. We saw the influence of Vizquel on Ramirez last year. Hopefully we see the same sort of results on the kids this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I wouldn't mind anyone from Walt Hriniak's school of hitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 25, 2011 -> 11:40 PM) This is a guy who had to have his own personal hitting coach flown in because he couldn't work with anyone else. To me, that doesn't bode well as a teacher if he isn't able to adjust to different personalities. Walt Hriniak mind you. The best there was in the biz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 26, 2011 -> 02:21 PM) Any thread with Greg, Marty or Victory (sometimes elrockin) in it. I accept the nomination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 26, 2011 -> 05:38 PM) Walt Hriniak mind you. The best there was in the biz When is the last time you told one of your bosses you couldn't work with them, and I can only work with the guy you already fired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Good point. I'm wondering how much Frank has mellowed. I do think he has some of the temperament to be a coach and not immediately a manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 26, 2011 -> 06:29 PM) When is the last time you told one of your bosses you couldn't work with them, and I can only work with the guy you already fired? Hitting coaches are far from players' bosses. They are closer to players' assistants than their bosses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 26, 2011 -> 07:27 AM) They did have issues with each other when Thomas was on the team. I hadn't really though of Konerko, but that is a really good point. I remembered them having issues a couple different times - I seem to recall in 2002 when Thomas was really struggling and Konerko shot out of the gate like a cannon they were asking PK about Frank and he'd criticized him pretty heavily. Hell, I may have even found the location of that article at some point in time here within the past 2-3 months, but it cost $3 to access it and I'm not going to pay money for that kind of stuff. That's I don't recall if Frank did the same in 2003, but it's quite ironic that Thomas and Konerko had flip-flopping slumps to start seasons in back to back years. I think both have cooled down tremendously from that point and I think they'd be able to co-exist. It's just a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Why is it that no other writer has bothered to talk to Frank? With all the ex players hired you would think that Frank would be a hotter topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 27, 2011 -> 05:45 AM) Why is it that no other writer has bothered to talk to Frank? With all the ex players hired you would think that Frank would be a hotter topic. No other writers consistently post here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 All the other writers are stalking O'Hare and Midway to see what Cubs-manager-related people might walk through the terminal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 26, 2011 -> 11:29 PM) When is the last time you told one of your bosses you couldn't work with them, and I can only work with the guy you already fired? I kind of think that just because the bosses let someone go it isn't necessarily right or justified. I think it does speak volumes that Frank thought so highly of the man considering the outstanding numbers that #35 put up in hs career. I am sure there were things going on there we don't know about though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 27, 2011 -> 11:39 AM) All the other writers are stalking O'Hare and Midway to see what Cubs-manager-related people might walk through the terminal I'm surprised Joe wasn't leg-humping during the PC to try to make some new contacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 27, 2011 -> 12:00 PM) I kind of think that just because the bosses let someone go it isn't necessarily right or justified. I think it does speak volumes that Frank thought so highly of the man considering the outstanding numbers that #35 put up in hs career. I am sure there were things going on there we don't know about though. Apparently loyalty is only a valuable commodity when half of Soxtalk isn't in the "F*ck Frank Thomas" Camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 27, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) Apparently loyalty is only a valuable commodity when half of Soxtalk isn't in the "F*ck Frank Thomas" Camp. That's a bit of an exaggeration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 27, 2011 -> 01:08 PM) That's a bit of an exaggeration. Not to mention that is has been a consistent response. I sure don't recall anyone saying hire Jim Thome, but not Frank Thomas because they like him better or something. The response has been almost universal to get someone who actually has experience as a hitting coach that amounts to more than I used to hit the ball a really long ways. If Frank really wants to do this, take notes from Ryne Sandberg. I don't care that Ventura got hired, he should not have been the manager of the White Sox right now. Enough with the inexperienced and no experienced crap. Hire someone who has done the job before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 27, 2011 -> 01:12 PM) Not to mention that is has been a consistent response. I sure don't recall anyone saying hire Jim Thome, but not Frank Thomas because they like him better or something. The response has been almost universal to get someone who actually has experience as a hitting coach that amounts to more than I used to hit the ball a really long ways. If Frank really wants to do this, take notes from Ryne Sandberg. I don't care that Ventura got hired, he should not have been the manager of the White Sox right now. Enough with the inexperienced and no experienced crap. Hire someone who has done the job before. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 27, 2011 -> 06:21 AM) I remembered them having issues a couple different times - I seem to recall in 2002 when Thomas was really struggling and Konerko shot out of the gate like a cannon they were asking PK about Frank and he'd criticized him pretty heavily. Hell, I may have even found the location of that article at some point in time here within the past 2-3 months, but it cost $3 to access it and I'm not going to pay money for that kind of stuff. That's I don't recall if Frank did the same in 2003, but it's quite ironic that Thomas and Konerko had flip-flopping slumps to start seasons in back to back years. I think both have cooled down tremendously from that point and I think they'd be able to co-exist. It's just a concern. I seem to remember the Big Hurt was chastised maybe by PK over a perceived lack of hustle or something only to find out Frank had a broken foot? I believe PK apologized profusely. Am I right or wrong here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 27, 2011 -> 06:07 PM) Apparently loyalty is only a valuable commodity when half of Soxtalk isn't in the "F*ck Frank Thomas" Camp. You will never see me in the slandering Frank TYhomas camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 27, 2011 -> 05:37 PM) You will never see me in the slandering Frank TYhomas camp Um, do you know what slander means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Oct 27, 2011 -> 05:37 PM) You will never see me in the slandering Frank TYhomas camp That's because it doesn't really exist on this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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