chw42 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 17, 2012 -> 01:51 PM) Phil Rodgers, "No team could use Soriano more than the Rays". Rumor has it Detroit was interested at one time. With how Dirks has been hitting, Soriano would barely play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 17, 2012 -> 01:51 PM) Phil Rodgers, "No team could use Soriano more than the Rays". Rumor has it Detroit was interested at one time. He'd be perfect for Tampa. But he'd probably turn it down because it is too domey there or something stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 I don't know that Tampa would take on any of that contract and I dont know If the Cubs will pay off the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 17, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) I don't know that Tampa would take on any of that contract and I dont know If the Cubs will pay off the rest The Cubs would pay the large majority if they felt they were getting back something useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 17, 2012 -> 03:12 PM) The Cubs would pay the large majority if they felt they were getting back something useful. That's the thing, you probably aren't getting anything useful back for soriano with that contract. It is basically just "get him out of here" at this point, and everyone knows it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 17, 2012 -> 03:15 PM) That's the thing, you probably aren't getting anything useful back for soriano with that contract. It is basically just "get him out of here" at this point, and everyone knows it right, I heard that Cubs will eat all but 3m a year, except that it's not like for just this year and he's off the books for the team getting him, I believe he has 2 more years left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 17, 2012 -> 03:15 PM) That's the thing, you probably aren't getting anything useful back for soriano with that contract. It is basically just "get him out of here" at this point, and everyone knows it I've heard that the Cubs were willing to pay almost $28 mil of the $36 mil due to him for 2013 & 2014, if they can get a good prospect. That leads to the question for inquiring teams, is a good prospect worth Soriano at $4m a year for his age 37 & 38 seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 17, 2012 -> 03:31 PM) I've heard that the Cubs were willing to pay almost $28 mil of the $36 mil due to him for 2013 & 2014, if they can get a good prospect. That leads to the question for inquiring teams, is a good prospect worth Soriano at $4m a year for his age 37 & 38 seasons? Would you give up a good prospect? And knowing the value Tampa puts on their minor leagues, do you think they would give up a good prospect? Seems like a Chuck LaMarr era move, not an Andrew Friedman era move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Castro gets $60 million: http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/...xtension-source First thought: that's a terrible contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 18, 2012 -> 02:44 PM) Castro gets $60 million: http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/...xtension-source First thought: that's a terrible contract. at first thought I thought it was neutral, then I looked at his numbers... they have to be banking on him getting better, which he certainly can since he's so young... but he has to improve. It will be a interesting to see if he can stick at SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Aug 18, 2012 -> 04:01 PM) at first thought I thought it was neutral, then I looked at his numbers... they have to be banking on him getting better, which he certainly can since he's so young... but he has to improve. It will be a interesting to see if he can stick at SS The real worry IMO is attitude. They're already complaining about his attitude a lot. Now he's gotten rewarded without having to fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 18, 2012 -> 03:31 PM) The real worry IMO is attitude. They're already complaining about his attitude a lot. Now he's gotten rewarded without having to fix that. You would think they would have learned their lesson with Zambrano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 18, 2012 -> 02:44 PM) Castro gets $60 million: http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/...xtension-source First thought: that's a terrible contract. I've heard he is very Patrick Kane-ish when it comes to partying & the nightlife, but at age 22 with his talent, I still don't see it being a terrible contract at all. Although I was surprised that his career OPS+ was only 103, I figured it was higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 18, 2012 -> 09:20 PM) I've heard he is very Patrick Kane-ish when it comes to partying & the nightlife, but at age 22 with his talent, I still don't see it being a terrible contract at all. Although I was surprised that his career OPS+ was only 103, I figured it was higher. That's the point: he's really not that great currently. I was watching the Cubs postgame yesterday and both Hollandsworth and Kaplan compared this contract to Longoria's and McCutchen's. This is ignorant, but not wholly unexpected from them. Longoria's base contract was for $16.5 million dollars. Castro's is above $40 million. Prior to signing his contract, McCutchen had three years where he averaged a WAR of 4.3. Castro has averaged about 2.5 WAR/season and is rewarded with a huge sum of money. Yes, he's 22, but he's shown little improvement in fielding, plate discipline and not being a massive space cadet. The Cubs overpaid for Castro, big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 7 years? The guy is a well below average defensive SS, with an above average bat-for-position (a position he may not be able to stay at for long), serious attitude issues and a lot of mental mistakes. The $60M isn't as scary, really, as the 7 years. That is a big risk to take. Everyone is talking about how much he can improve because he is so young. Except, this guy has shown consistently he lacks the mental tools necessary to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 18, 2012 -> 03:33 PM) You would think they would have learned their lesson with Zambrano. Or Soriano... Dollarwise he might earn the contract, but attitudewise it sure seems like a dumb idea. I swear they are extending him just to pander to the attendance base, which is just f***ing stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 20, 2012 -> 08:26 AM) 7 years? The guy is a well below average defensive SS, with an above average bat-for-position (a position he may not be able to stay at for long), serious attitude issues and a lot of mental mistakes. The $60M isn't as scary, really, as the 7 years. That is a big risk to take. Everyone is talking about how much he can improve because he is so young. Except, this guy has shown consistently he lacks the mental tools necessary to do that. That and the fact that he's in his essentially his 3rd full season in the majors and he has not improved offensively. He is still really young, but, you're right, there are way too many red flags to give out this kind of deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I keep thinking...didn't they get rid of Hendry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 This Brewers bullpen has to be among the worst of all time. I think they could have competed for the wild card if they didn't blow so many games in the 8th & 9th, their offense barely missed a beat without Prince. Axford was lights out last year, K-Rod was one of the best closers of the past decade, weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-leag...-mlb.html"" target="_blank">I'd never heard of this guy until now. Guy was on the Cubs in 2005 and got beaned in his first MLB plate appearance on the very first pitch. Concussion happens and he never makes it back to the bigs. Now there's an online petition for him to have just one more MLB plate appearance. I guess the idea is that since 1) the Cubs are horrible this year, and 2) they have exactly 1 open spot on their 40-man roster, he should get that shot against the even more horrible Houston Astros in the final game of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 That'd be a nice gesture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I'd never heard of this guy until now. Guy was on the Cubs in 2005 and got beaned in his first MLB plate appearance on the very first pitch. Concussion happens and he never makes it back to the bigs. Now there's an online petition for him to have just one more MLB plate appearance. I guess the idea is that since 1) the Cubs are horrible this year, and 2) they have exactly 1 open spot on their 40-man roster, he should get that shot against the even more horrible Houston Astros in the final game of the season. Am I the only one who would find it funny if they did this and then the guy got hit again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 31, 2012 -> 11:53 AM) Am I the only one who would find it funny if they did this and then the guy got hit again? I'd throw at him, but then again I hate the Cubs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 A nameless female friend of mine from tweeting from Wrigley... Maybe if I paid attention I would know who is actually scoring! Bahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 31, 2012 -> 02:26 PM) A nameless female friend of mine from tweeting from Wrigley... Maybe if I paid attention I would know who is actually scoring! Bahahaha In other news, the world is still round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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