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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 10, 2015 -> 10:06 AM)
US U-20's advance to the quarter finals with a 1-0 win over Colombia. Rubin scored and Steffen saved a PK in the 83rd minute. Supposedly CCV, Miazga and Desevio Payne were all beasts on defense. If Payne (currently starting in the Eredevisie) can become an answer at one of our FB positions down the road that'd be great. We've struggled there ever since Cherundolo retired.

 

They play Serbia at 12:30 on Saturday night/Sunday morning. A trip to the semi-finals is very possible right now.

Payne looks good. I'm not sure I'd be rushing him into the full team, but maybe in a couple years. There's not a ton of depth on this team, but there's also a lot of high level prospects. Carter-Vickers might be able to play for the senior team within a year. Steffen looks like a strong GK prospect. Zelalem is legit. Hyndman looks like a future Michael Bradley. Rubin looks good. Patience is key and hopefully these guys keep improving, but it looks like a nice group.

 

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 10, 2015 -> 04:00 PM)
A lot of the young players on the US are looking good ahead of the Gold Cup. I think if the US win the Gold Cup, they get automatic qualification for the 2018 WC.

No, they qualify into the 2017 Confederations Cup if they win the Gold Cup.

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QUOTE (zenryan @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 10:55 AM)
Morris has been a nice surprise but we've seen US forwards come out looking good in their first few caps and then barely amount to anything.

 

 

Copa starts tonight. Woohoo

 

Excited for this to start. Most countries are bringing their best squads (Mexico is not, and Brazil left a lot home). I'm taking Colombia to win it.

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QUOTE (zenryan @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 09:55 AM)
Morris has been a nice surprise but we've seen US forwards come out looking good in their first few caps and then barely amount to anything.

 

 

Copa starts tonight. Woohoo

 

Looks like it's time for me to order beIN sports.

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Excited for this to start. Most countries are bringing their best squads (Mexico is not, and Brazil left a lot home). I'm taking Colombia to win it.

 

The big problem with Copa always has been and always will be that the invited teams (Mexico) can't force clubs to release players. Don't know Brazil's excuse though.

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Payne looks good. I'm not sure I'd be rushing him into the full team, but maybe in a couple years. There's not a ton of depth on this team, but there's also a lot of high level prospects. Carter-Vickers might be able to play for the senior team within a year. Steffen looks like a strong GK prospect. Zelalem is legit. Hyndman looks like a future Michael Bradley. Rubin looks good. Patience is key and hopefully these guys keep improving, but it looks like a nice group.

 

 

No, they qualify into the 2017 Confederations Cup if they win the Gold Cup.

 

And even if they don't win, they get a playoff against the winner for the spot by virtue of winning the 2013 Gold Cup.

 

Should be academic though. US has no excuse not to win.

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QUOTE (zenryan @ Jun 10, 2015 -> 07:22 PM)
Team looks real dynamic right now. This team looks good when Bradley is on. Hopefully the bunkering of CONCACAF opposition in the Gold Cup doesn't give this team too many fits.

 

The US has a couple players who, when on form, are capable of carrying the roster and playing with the big countries. Bradley is absolutely one of those guys (see the win @ Italy a couple years back for another example). Jozy carried the US through a tough qualifying stretch in '13. Dempsey is obviously Dempsey.

 

The problem for the US, at the moment anyway, is that unlike the countries above them, there aren't enough guys like Bradley/Altidore/Dempsey to step up when any of them are off form (the Altidore injury in Brazil was a killer). The good news is that the talent pool continues to expand and there are some really promising youngsters.

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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 11:00 AM)
The big problem with Copa always has been and always will be that the invited teams (Mexico) can't force clubs to release players. Don't know Brazil's excuse though.

 

I don't think Brazil's really missing anyone all that important.

 

Their starting 11 is more or less their A team:

 

Jefferson

Danilo Miranda Luiz Marcelo

Willian Gustavo Elias Robinho

Firmino Neymar

 

I'm wondering why they're playing Miranda instead of Silva. With how that game against Germany went, you'd think they would put a more lax defender like Silva back there to back up David Luiz in case he goes too attack happy again.

 

Mexico's not even bringing Dos Santos, Hernandez, Guardado, or Ochoa to Copa America.

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QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 12:00 PM)
The big problem with Copa always has been and always will be that the invited teams (Mexico) can't force clubs to release players. Don't know Brazil's excuse though.

 

Mexico's manager has basically said he's saving some of his players (GDS, JDS, Chicharito, Vela, Guardado, Ochoa) for the Gold Cup

 

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 12:02 PM)
And even if they don't win, they get a playoff against the winner for the spot by virtue of winning the 2013 Gold Cup.

 

Should be academic though. US has no excuse not to win.

 

Mexico is bringing a very good side to the Gold Cup. Not a given at all.

 

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 12:33 PM)
I don't think Brazil's really missing anyone all that important.

 

Their starting 11 is more or less their A team:

 

Jefferson

Danilo Miranda Luiz Marcelo

Willian Gustavo Elias Robinho

Firmino Neymar

 

I'm wondering why they're playing Miranda instead of Silva. With how that game against Germany went, you'd think they would put a more lax defender like Silva back there to back up David Luiz in case he goes too attack happy again.

 

They're not bringing Marcelo, Dante, Oscar, Lucas Moura, Ramires, Paulinho, Bernard, Hulk or Leandro Damiao. They're midfield has a lot of inexperience outside of Willian

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 12:28 PM)
Mexico's manager has basically said he's saving some of his players (GDS, JDS, Chicharito, Vela, Guardado, Ochoa) for the Gold Cup

 

 

 

Mexico is bringing a very good side to the Gold Cup. Not a given at all.

 

 

 

They're not bringing Marcelo, Dante, Oscar, Lucas Moura, Ramires, Paulinho, Bernard, Hulk or Leandro Damiao. They're midfield has a lot of inexperience outside of Willian

 

I saw Marcelo on the 35 man roster and assumed he was going to start. I guess they're going with Filipe Luis?

 

They have Coutihno instead of Oscar, who I feel is actually just as good, if not better. Not having Hulk hurts, but I feel that as long as Brazil has Neymar, they're going places.

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So apparently Qatar scored a blatant offsides goal in the 9th minute of 2nd half stoppage time to beat the mighty Maldives 1-0 in the AFC 2nd round of WC Qualifying this afternoon. Jokes write themselves.

 

I've never even heard of such a thing as 9 minutes of stoppage time.

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Chile wins 2-0, Ecuador fought them step for step for a while, but Chile's talent really showed for the last half hour.

 

Matias Fernandez decided to be an idiot and got a second yellow in stoppage time. I guess it's a good thing for Chile that their group is pretty awful and won't really need Fernandez in the group stage.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 11, 2015 -> 09:26 PM)
Does anyone else find Ray Hudson (analyst on beIN) extremely annoying after listening to his terrible metaphors for 5 minutes?

 

 

 

I was thinking why cant Hudson do more games. I really enjoy listening to his passion and his lines he comes up with seem authentic, not something he has written down just waiting to spew out.

 

I really enjoyed last summer listening to him on SiriusXM during the World Cup. He was usually on some morning show.

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QUOTE (zenryan @ Jun 13, 2015 -> 09:24 AM)
I was thinking why cant Hudson do more games. I really enjoy listening to his passion and his lines he comes up with seem authentic, not something he has written down just waiting to spew out.

 

I really enjoyed last summer listening to him on SiriusXM during the World Cup. He was usually on some morning show.

 

 

Some of the stuff he says is hilarious, but I feel like he goes way too overboard with it. Even Hawk doesn't go as beserk as Hudson does sometimes.

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Paraguay came back from 2-0 and drew Argentina. Argentina had a lot of good chances to go up 3-1 in the second half but couldn't finish.

 

Martinez also subbed on Tevez and Higuain after Paraguay scored their first goal, like they wanted to go offense-heavy when they probably should have gone defensive.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 13, 2015 -> 02:52 PM)
Some of the stuff he says is hilarious, but I feel like he goes way too overboard with it. Even Hawk doesn't go as beserk as Hudson does sometimes.

 

 

 

Hawk is a douche who scripts out his comments. Hudson doesnt appear to be reading some catch phrases for attention.

 

 

Mali beats Germany in u-20s in penalties. crazy stuff.

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out on PKs to Serbia. There was some really bad penalties taken. Other than the one kick off the post/crossbar, the other kicks looked missed when addressing the ball.

 

But a decent showing atleast. Lost some guys to injury during the tournament that could've really made a difference last night and going forward. But a few guys to look out for over the next few years.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 14, 2015 -> 07:27 PM)
Neymar just made an incredible pass to assist the winning goal for Brazil in stoppage time.

 

 

 

a highly entertaining game even though there was 85 minutes between goals.

 

anyone who had the over can breathe.

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