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QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 11, 2012 -> 11:11 AM)
Is it possible to believe that Paterno is guilty by not doing enough, and that the condemnation of him as a person is out of scale as compared to others who were also involved without defending him?

 

Mike McQueary and Mrs. Sandusky IMHO should be the ones that receive the highest condemnation.

 

But his name is forgotten because he told someone famous.

It's "out of scale" because of how many people are defending him on a national level "out of scale", saying he didn't do anything wrong, shouldn't have been fired, etc. Last I checked PSU wasn't rioting over Sandusky or McQueary, nor were articles being written to defend them, etc.

 

It's pretty easy to see how it follows.

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QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Feb 11, 2012 -> 12:32 PM)
It's "out of scale" because of how many people are defending him on a national level "out of scale", saying he didn't do anything wrong, shouldn't have been fired, etc. Last I checked PSU wasn't rioting over Sandusky or McQueary, nor were articles being written to defend them, etc.

 

It's pretty easy to see how it follows.

 

Yes, out of scale in both the defense and the attacks.

 

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Eight of 10 alleged Jerry Sandusky victims say they were abused at Penn State

Prosecutors have provided Jerry Sandusky and his attorney with a more detailed list of the allegations of child sex abuse made against him by 10 men who say they were abused as boys by the former football great.

 

The list, a response to attorney Joe Amendola's request for dates, locations and ages of the boys during each alleged incident of abuse, was filed Thursday in Centre County, where the former Penn State assistant football coach is set to face trial May 14 on more than 50 counts.

 

The court filing doesn't reveal much more than was outlined in two graphic grand jury reports filed against Sandusky late last year.

 

It does, however, show that eight of 10 alleged Sandusky victims were abused on Penn State's campus.

 

Five of the victims were allegedly abused in the Lasch Building, where the football program is housed, the court documents state.

 

Other alleged assaults occurred in locker rooms in a different campus building and at a campus pool, the documents state. One victims said he was assaulted in a Penn State dorm, the court documents state.

 

Several of the other incidents allegedly happened at Sandusky's Centre County home, in Clinton County, where he was a volunteer high school football coach, in his car, hotels, and in other places around Centre County, the court documents say

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Number of accusers explodes in new court documents.

New court documents filed by attorneys for Jerry Sandusky, the former Penn State assistant football coach embroiled in a child sex abuse scandal, suggest that there are at least 17 accusers, a far higher number of alleged victims than the 10 detailed in the charges.

 

In the motion filed Thursday, defense attorney Joe Amendola requested that additional information be disclosed by the court, including details about "all possible accusers who have been identified as Nos. 11 through 17 as well as those whose identification are numbered from 18 and beyond."

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8 of the 12 jurors have a direct connection with PSU, the rest or from the local area

 

Juror 2: A 24-year-old who plans to start school in the fall to study automotive technology. His father worked for 30 years at Penn State in the office of the physical plant.

 

Juror 3: A woman whose husband is a physician who worked with Mike McQueary's father, John McQueary, before he retired. Amendola asked the judge to strike her, but he didn't. The judge said that in a small town, that's bound to happen, and was reluctant to strike her. Sandusky intervened at that point, and said to his attorney, "I think she can be fair," after hearing that she had season tickets for many years to Penn State football games. The McQueary's are expected to be key witnesses in the case of Victim Two. In that case, Mike McQueary says he stumbled upon Sandusky sexually assaulting a young boy in the Penn State football locker room and reported it to two Penn State officials. Those officials were charged with lying about the incident and never reporting it to police. John McQueary is expected to support his son's testimony.

 

Juror 6: Woman in her 20s who says she never reads news or watches television. She works at a State College property management company and has some interactions with Penn State students, but said that wouldn't affect her opinions. She had brown hair.

 

Juror 7: Penn State rising senior who grew up in Penns Valley, which is in Centre County, and played for Steve Turchetta -- now the Clinton County high school coach who hired Sandusky as a volunteer assistant. Turchetta was the assistant principal at the time Sandusky was first accused by alleged Victim One -- a student at that high school. Juror 7 came wearing a Penn State archery shirt, and works for the athletic department part-time in the multi-sports facility. He read a lot about the case and had opinions, he said, but could put them aside for the trial. His cousin also played on the Penn State football team for six years, and his mom works for the State College Area School District.

Amendola wanted to strike Juror 7 since he played for Steve Turchetta, but the judge denied the strike.

 

Juror 8: White man in his 60s or 70s. Retired Penn State professor of soil science for 37 years. Said he reads the Centre Daily Times, the local newspaper.

 

Juror 10: Woman in her 50s who works at Penn State as administrative assistant in engineering. She has two daughters and four grand kids.

 

Juror 11: A Penn State continuing education instructor of dance. Mother of a 6-year-old boy. Late 30s. When asked about her son by Sandusky's attorney Joe Amendola, she she recognizes kids don't always tell the truth. She also has ties to a witness -- Kelly Hastings, the superintendent of the Clinton County school district where alleged Victim One attended school, and where Sandusky was a volunteer football coach before he was accused.

Juror 11's husband works as a media information specialist at Penn State, and she said she has talked to him about this case.

 

Juror 12: Woman in her 50s or 60 who has been a Penn State professor for the past 24 years. She worked worked on committee with fired university President Graham Spanier and current president Rodney Erickson for six years. She did not say what she teaches. Sandusky gave a commencement address at her graduation, and she has two sons ages 14 and 16.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 6, 2012 -> 01:34 PM)
B&B were in a state of horrified-to-the-point-of-amused disbelief at the 8 jurors announced yesterday. I can't believe they're holding this in State College.

 

On a side note, it's interesting how deep into this story B & B have gotten. Most news people had stopped talking about it for a while, but they have kept mentioning it any time new news comes up and obviously have very strong feelings about the case. Considering how much they laugh about any topic out there, they have taken such a serious tone about this one.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 6, 2012 -> 04:53 PM)
Depends how you look at it. Would these PSU people want to let him off or put the SOB in jail who got their beloved coach fired and disgraced their name?

 

Exactly. This might have hung jury written all over it. All it takes is one.

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How can PSU employees be considered impartial? A conviction does damage to the reputation/prestige of their workplace.

 

The evidence against him is so overwhelming, I think an acquittal does more damage to PSU's reputation--it makes them look like people who will protect criminals, and nobody will want to move there.

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Major New Evidence in Sandusky Case

 

Full blown cover up, because it wouldn't be fair to expose Sandusky.

 

Report: 'Major new evidence' uncovered, Spanier could face charges

 

The Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse trial began Monday, just as Penn State was forced to respond to an NBC-TV report citing "major new evidence" uncovered by investigators implied a cover-up by former president Graham Spanier.

 

The report cited the discovery of email messages from 2001 exchanged between Spanier, Gary Schultz and Tim Curley, who are facing perjury charges. Spanier and Schultz allegedly said they were not involving legal authorities because it was the "humane" thing to do for Sandusky.

Penn State University released a statement but refused to comment on the discovery.

 

"In the course of former FBI Director Louis Freeh's independent investigation, e-mails were discovered and immediately turned over to the State Attorney General," Penn State spokesman David La Torre said in a statement.

 

"In deference to the legal process, the University cannot comment further on specifics of the ongoing legal case as it unfolds. We continue to work with the State Attorney General, the US Attorney and Judge Freeh in their investigations into this matter.

 

"We will continue to cooperate fully with all legal processes to determine what happened and ensure personal accountability."

 

Everyone. Hang.

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