SoxFan1 Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Here are the #'s: Loaiza, Mulder, Halladay, Moyer The numbers dont lie! E-Lo for Cy Young! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 So far, it should be a no brainer for Loaiza. But it's only August 10th. Lot of baseball left to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 If Loaiza gets 20 wins and has the better ERA than Mulder the Cy Young is his. Mulder will win it if Loaiza doesn't win 20 though. Mulder has more respect from the media, west coast or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Is Pedro Martinez worthy of consideration? He was out for a bit but the numbers are otherwise every bit as impressive as the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Player TEAM W L ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO 1. E Loaiza CWS 15 5 2.24 24 24 1 0 164.2 139 43 41 12 5 35 135 2. P Martinez BOS 8 2 2.32 20 20 2 0 131.2 105 40 34 6 5 34 148 3. M Mulder OAK 15 8 2.94 24 24 9 2 177.1 165 58 58 14 2 36 120 4. R Halladay TOR 16 3 3.40 26 26 3 0 190.2 187 83 72 21 6 23 139 5. J Moyer SEA 15 5 3.50 24 24 0 0 151.2 138 62 59 16 6 48 96 Mulder has 9 complete games, that's insane. And Pedro has only started 4-6 games less than the others, but gets a lot of no decisions from lack of run support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 <pre> Player TEAM W L ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO 1. E Loaiza CWS 15 5 2.24 24 24 1 0 164.2 139 43 41 12 5 35 135 2. P Martinez BOS 8 2 2.32 20 20 2 0 131.2 105 40 34 6 5 34 148 3. M Mulder OAK 15 8 2.94 24 24 9 2 177.1 165 58 58 14 2 36 120 4. R Halladay TOR 16 3 3.40 26 26 3 0 190.2 187 83 72 21 6 23 139 5. J Moyer SEA 15 5 3.50 24 24 0 0 151.2 138 62 59 16 6 48 96 </pre> Mulder has 9 complete games, that's insane. And Pedro has only started 4-6 games less than the others, but gets a lot of no decisions from lack of run support. I'm glad you brought up run support. Here is how much each of those pitchers receive in terms of RS... Roy Halladay = 6.89 RPG (3rd in AL) Pedro Martinez = 5.74 RPG (17th in AL) Jamie Moyer = 5.28 RPG (24th in AL) Mark Mulder = 4.82 RPG (30th in AL) Esteban Loaiza = 4.70 RPG (32nd in AL) So, Esteban has the #1 ERA in the AL (2.24), is tied for 2nd in wins (15), T-3rd in WHIP (1.06), T-4th in batting average against (.231), 3rd in OPS against (.606), and 1st in quality starts (20). In-f***ing-credible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 11, 2003 Share Posted August 11, 2003 Player TEAM W L ERA G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO 1. E Loaiza CWS 15 5 2.24 24 24 1 0 164.2 139 43 41 12 5 35 135 2. P Martinez BOS 8 2 2.32 20 20 2 0 131.2 105 40 34 6 5 34 148 3. M Mulder OAK 15 8 2.94 24 24 9 2 177.1 165 58 58 14 2 36 120 4. R Halladay TOR 16 3 3.40 26 26 3 0 190.2 187 83 72 21 6 23 139 5. J Moyer SEA 15 5 3.50 24 24 0 0 151.2 138 62 59 16 6 48 96 Mulder has 9 complete games, that's insane. And Pedro has only started 4-6 games less than the others, but gets a lot of no decisions from lack of run support. I'm glad you brought up run support. Here is how much each of those pitchers receive in terms of RS... Roy Halladay = 6.89 RPG (3rd in AL) Pedro Martinez = 5.74 RPG (17th in AL) Jamie Moyer = 5.28 RPG (24th in AL) Mark Mulder = 4.82 RPG (30th in AL) Esteban Loaiza = 4.70 RPG (32nd in AL) So, Esteban has the #1 ERA in the AL (2.24), is tied for 2nd in wins (15), T-3rd in WHIP (1.06), T-4th in batting average against (.231), 3rd in OPS against (.606), and 1st in quality starts (20). In-f***ing-credible. I also noticed that in the same number of starts Mulder has 9 complete games but has pitched only 13 more innings. E-Lo has been amazing for us this year. I still hold my breath every outing, praying the bloom won't fall off. Being a long term Sox fan, I learned long ago not to believe too quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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