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jaysonst Jayson Stark

Before Verlander, you know how many starting pitchers had gotten a 1st-place MVP vote in the 2000s? Exactly one (Johan in '06). That's crazy

 

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Justin Verlander is the 1st pitcher to win MVP since Dennis Eckersley in 1992 & the 1st SP to win since Roger Clemens in 1986.

 

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal

Verlander won despite not being named at all on one ballot.

 

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DKnobler DKnobler

Six players received first-place votes, including 1 for Michael Young

 

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Verlander had 13 of 28 first-place votes. No one else had more than 5 (Bautista)

 

jaysonst Jayson Stark

Amazing that Ellsburgy, Bautista, Granderson & Cabrera appeared on every MVP ballot -- & the guy who won (Verlander) was only on 27 of 28

 

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Verlander was on 27 of 28 ballots. 26 of 28 had him 6th or higher.

 

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 01:06 PM)
jaysonst Jayson Stark

Before Verlander, you know how many starting pitchers had gotten a 1st-place MVP vote in the 2000s? Exactly one (Johan in '06). That's crazy

 

ESPNStatsInfo ESPN Stats & Info

Justin Verlander is the 1st pitcher to win MVP since Dennis Eckersley in 1992 & the 1st SP to win since Roger Clemens in 1986.

 

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal

Verlander won despite not being named at all on one ballot.

 

Well, that's pretty cool.

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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 01:23 PM)
I don't agree with this. While Verlander is probably the most worthy pitcher in a long time to deserve to be in the running, there is a reason that there is a Cy Young award.

 

I want a hitter to get the Cy Young once.

 

False equivalency. Its not like Verlander won the Hitter of the Year award.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 01:31 PM)
False equivalency. Its not like Verlander won the Hitter of the Year award.

 

Yeah, but I think those two awards are the oldest traditional ones. The two main awards anybody cares about are Cy Young and MVP, and most view them as being for pitchers and hitters, respectively. They just need to change the rules slightly to make MVP only for hitters.

 

Oh, and shut your face.

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QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 02:14 PM)
Wow, a pitcher shouldn't be MVP.

 

I'm of the stance that a pitcher could be the MVP, but only if there are no worthy position players that year or if the pitcher is just THAT good.

 

Verlander was awesome this year, but I think people might have overrated him by thinking Detroit had an absolute s*** pitching staff outside of him and that he had no other support. Which is obviously wrong. The Tigers had one of the best offenses in baseball and the Yankees' staff was probably worse outside of Sabathia.

 

Even though Verlander was awesome, I don't think he was more valuable than Ellsbury or Bautista. So I don't agree with this decision at all.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 02:29 PM)
We just need a Babe Ruth Award already for the leagues best hitter, then MVP won't be an issue and can go to THE best player in each league without ignoring hitters for the entire year if a pitcher wins (like this).

But Babe Ruth was a pitcher too

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QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 21, 2011 -> 02:48 PM)
And there lies the problem...

 

This decision was a result of the Boston collapse, even though Ellsbury hit like an MVP during it.

 

Like it or not, with a couple of exceptions, this is how it has always been done. The pitcher thing is a much bigger exception though.

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