southsider2k5 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/..._medium=twitter White Sox in no hurry to lock in Danks November, 28, 2011 Nov 28 By Doug Padilla CHICAGO – If the White Sox do consider John Danks a big part of their future, they aren’t in a hurry to get the left-hander locked in beyond the 2012 season. A source with knowledge of club’s contract negotiations said the White Sox have made no overtures to Danks’ agent regarding a long-term contract. Danks is eligible for salary arbitration one more season and will then be eligible for free agency in 2013. Danks could make somewhere between $7 million and $8 million next season in arbitration. There have been rumors that the White Sox would consider trading Danks, but if Mark Buehrle leaves via free agency that would leave the rotation without two key starters. The White Sox could also be willing to retain Danks on another one-year contract and work on a long-term deal during spring training. The club typically doesn’t negotiate deals during the season, so if Danks isn’t locked in by Opening Day, he could end up hitting the open market in 2013. The key to the whole scenario could be the Carlos Quentin situation. While the White Sox could still have some hesitation about trading Danks, they are rumored to be more willing to deal Quentin since Dayan Viciedo is prepared to take over in right field. If a Quentin deal could return a young starter who has plenty of upside and is ready to make an impact on a major-league rotation quickly, it could lead the White Sox to trading a guy like Gavin Floyd or even Danks. Between Danks and Floyd, it is Danks who figures to get the most talent in return. But Danks leaves them with at least one veteran lefty if Buehrle leaves. As of early last week, general manager Kenny Williams said that player personnel activity was slow but he expected that to pick up after the Thanksgiving holiday. Williams has said his players are popular among teams willing to make a trade this offseason, but apparently there hasn’t been an offer that has moved the White Sox toward making a deal. With the winter meetings in Dallas just one week away and teams about to get serious about their rosters for next season, the White Sox will see if those trade offers get any more enticing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 extension... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Don't talk to him about an extension. The guy had absolutely no interest in extending for years, as his mouth was watering at the huge payday awaiting him once he hit free agency. Now that he's basically proven that he'll never live up to that "ace" potential, and even took a step back, he'd probably be willing to negotiate. But f*** him. Trade him for the best package possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 No trades, signings, or extensions are going to happen with any pitchers until Buehrle signs somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 (edited) No trades, signings, or extensions are going to happen with any pitchers until Buehrle signs somewhere. I can't see a 2012 with Mark on it, as much as I would like.. The $ and the shape of this team, doesn't allow it. As for Danks.. I don't see him either being a White Sox. As much as kenny talks, I can't see JR singing off on a 110+ payroll again. Edited November 28, 2011 by VictoryMC98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 28, 2011 -> 08:44 PM) http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/..._medium=twitter Kenny Williams will soon cutesie himself out of a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 This shouldn't come as too much of a surprise. Everyone knows the chances of resigning him are slim with the way sox deal contracts to pitchers. The only way I could see them beginning talks about a contract extension now is if they want to try to lock him up before deciding to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 It would be amazing if the sox can somehow lock up this guy, but I highly doubt it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/..._medium=twitter CHICAGO -- The Chicago White Sox haven't made a long-term contract offer to starter John Danks very recently because they were rebuffed after multiple attempts not that long ago, a source told ESPNChicago.com on Thursday. The stalemate in negotiations has increased the possibility that Danks could be traded, but indications are that that White Sox have not lost complete faith that a deal could be worked out with their left-hander. With the possibility that Mark Buehrle will sign elsewhere and the sense that Danks is being aimed toward free agency next winter (he has one more year of arbitration remaining), the White Sox are keen on establishing some roster certainty moving forward. General manager Kenny Williams said that some of his players have drawn considerable interest from other clubs, and Danks is believed to be somebody high on that list. Danks could get between $7 million and $8 million on a one-year deal through arbitration this offseason. With a Buehrle about to make up to $14 million a season on the free-agent market, a pitcher with Danks' ability and experience at half the price would be considered a steal. Because it's not a deep free-agent class for starting pitching this offseason, Danks could wind up pulling in an impressive package of players in a trade, including a starting pitcher with tons of upside. By trading Carlos Quentin, to free up right field for Dayan Viciedo, the White Sox could land another haul of impressive young talent. Williams gave indications at the general manager's meetings last month that the White Sox have a tentative plan to go young in some areas but had not yet committed to a direction for the offseason. Call it a mini youth movement, though, since Paul Konerko isn't expected to be moved, and Adam Dunn and Alex Rios are just about impossible to move unless the White Sox eat a major portion of their contracts. A.J. Pierzynski is under contract for one more season and has the right to block a trade. Williams has long valued pitching in both the draft and in trades, but other needs include highly regarded second base and third base prospects, in case Gordon Beckham and Brent Morel don't develop as planned. Doug Padilla covers the White Sox for ESPNChicago.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 (edited) Think about this: It's likley that Mark is gone, and plausible that both Danks and Floyd are gone. If Peavy isn't healthy, Phil Humber could be our opening day starter. Ha Peavy Humber Sale Stewart Axelrod Now THAT, my friends, is a proper AL Central pitching rotation. Edited December 1, 2011 by Eminor3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 1, 2011 -> 01:17 PM) Think about this: It's likley that Mark is gone, and plausible that both Danks and Floyd are gone. If Peavy isn't healthy, Phil Humber could be our opening day starter. Ha Peavy Humber Sale Stewart Axelrod Now THAT, my friends, is a proper AL Central pitching rotation. Sweet jesus. 100 losses, easy. Though I doubt Floyd and Danks will be traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 1, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) Sweet jesus. 100 losses, easy. Though I doubt Floyd and Danks will be traded. Welcome to "BLOW IT UP" land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 1, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) Sweet jesus. 100 losses, easy. Though I doubt Floyd and Danks will be traded. You're right, it's more likely that one will go and the other will stay. I'd guess Floyd stays, but who knows. Do you give Gavin the opening day start over Peavy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 1, 2011 -> 01:52 PM) You're right, it's more likely that one will go and the other will stay. I'd guess Floyd stays, but who knows. Do you give Gavin the opening day start over Peavy? Of course. Pitchers on the DL aren't eligible to start opening day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Plus, f*** Jake Peavy. The guy can't stay healthy for us and has contributed far less than Floyd. If he or anyone else thinks he deserves an opening day start, they can blow me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 1, 2011 -> 02:15 PM) Plus, f*** Jake Peavy. The guy can't stay healthy for us and has contributed far less than Floyd. If he or anyone else thinks he deserves an opening day start, they can blow me. I'd say it would be less of an issue of 'deserves,' and much more about who would give us the best chance to win. With no Buerhle or Danks, (the mythical) healthy Peavy is probably our best pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 1, 2011 -> 02:29 PM) I'd say it would be less of an issue of 'deserves,' and much more about who would give us the best chance to win. With no Buerhle or Danks, (the mythical) healthy Peavy is probably our best pitcher. Gavin Floyd has been a better pitcher for this team. He'd deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 1, 2011 -> 01:22 PM) Sweet jesus. 100 losses, easy. Though I doubt Floyd and Danks will be traded. ...100 losses and an empty stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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