southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 2, 2011 -> 07:30 AM) So let me get this straight, 3 years is the starting point for Buerhle, which is probably the exact amount of years the Sox would want to lock him up for. He wants a no-trade clause, which he'd automatically get by resigning with us. He's also willing to let the Sox match any offers he receives. Cowley basically shows we should be somewhat optimistic, but then says things don't look good. His bias against Williams is beyond pathetic. Glad to hear that Williams is asking for the moon for Danks and talking to every team with an open ear. He's our most valuable trading chip and it sounds like KW is handling this situation the right way. BTW, when is the Rule 5 draft? I always thought the idea of trading both Danks brothers in the same deal was far-fetched, but with Jordan off the 40 man roster and John likely to go, maybe there would be some logic to it. He obviously wouldn't be much more than a throw-in, but he'd offer the acquiring team a slightly better chance at retaining John long-term. December 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 1, 2011 -> 10:35 PM) When you open an article with this: Why not just wear a big sign that says "I am bitter and incapable of objective reporting"? Or, why not title the article "My bias is so crystal clear that only am imbecile will take what I write seriously"? I can decide whether I like Jay Cowley, or Joe Mariotti better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayitaintso Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2011 -> 07:50 AM) I can decide whether I like Jay Cowley, or Joe Mariotti better. I wonder what that hineybird has been up to lately??? Edited December 2, 2011 by sayitaintso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 QUOTE (sayitaintso @ Dec 2, 2011 -> 10:12 AM) I wonder what that hineybird has been up to lately??? Last I knew he was trying to stay out of jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that the White Sox have been shopping John Danks around in trade talks. General manager Kenny Williams indicated last month that he would be reluctant to part with Danks, but it was likely just an attempt to bump up the asking price. That price is evidently steep, as a source from another team told Cowley that Williams "asked for everyone on our roster in return" for the left-hander. While an obvious exaggeration, it's no surprise that Williams would be demanding a lot for the 27-year-old Danks, who is set to make around $7-8 million in his final year of arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 2, 2011 -> 10:53 AM) Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that the White Sox have been shopping John Danks around in trade talks. General manager Kenny Williams indicated last month that he would be reluctant to part with Danks, but it was likely just an attempt to bump up the asking price. That price is evidently steep, as a source from another team told Cowley that Williams "asked for everyone on our roster in return" for the left-hander. While an obvious exaggeration, it's no surprise that Williams would be demanding a lot for the 27-year-old Danks, who is set to make around $7-8 million in his final year of arbitration. And if he wasn't, Cowley would be throwing a fit about how he should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) If Danks is going to make $7M-$8M in 2012, why not just keep him. That will be less than Buehrle would make in 2012 if we signed him. Could see how the season goes and then trade Danks near the trading deadline (if we are out of it). Sale is the new lefty for Buehrle's spot in the rotation. Start the season with a rotation of Sale, Danks, Floyd, Humber, Peavy. Stewart as the insurance guy. We save money by not resigning Buehrle. And we probably trade Thornton and/or Quentin which offer more financial relief. And Peavy's contract comes off the book in 2013. We have a younger team with DeAza, Flowers, Viciedo, Morel in the mix. And this team can still compete in a weak AL Central. Keep your fingers crossed and hope for an offensive rebound for Rios and Dunn and Beckham. Edited December 2, 2011 by sunofgold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 QUOTE (sunofgold @ Dec 2, 2011 -> 11:16 AM) If Danks is going to make $7M-$8M in 2012, why not just keep him. That will be less than Buehrle would make in 2012 if we signed him. Could see how the season goes and then trade Danks near the trading deadline (if we are out of it). Sale is the new lefty for Buehrle's spot in the rotation. Start the season with a rotation of Sale, Danks, Floyd, Humber, Peavy. Stewart as the insurance guy. We save money by not resigning Buehrle. And we probably trade Thornton and/or Quentin which offer more financial relief. And Peavy's contract comes off the book in 2013. We have a younger team with DeAza, Flowers, Viciedo, Morel in the mix. And this team can still compete in a weak AL Central. Keep your fingers crossed and hope for an offensive rebound for Rios and Dunn and Beckham. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 2, 2011 -> 11:25 AM) Ugh. lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 2, 2011 -> 11:25 AM) Ugh. That team might be able to compete if everything goes right, but you have to move Danks now if he's unwilling to agree to an extension. We desperately need to get maximum value out of him, even if that hurts our chances of competing next year (based on what other moves we make). Some team will be willing to pay a steep price for him right now. I wish it weren't the case, but we really need to add young talent and he's our best chip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 2, 2011 -> 11:53 AM) Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times reports that the White Sox have been shopping John Danks around in trade talks. General manager Kenny Williams indicated last month that he would be reluctant to part with Danks, but it was likely just an attempt to bump up the asking price. That price is evidently steep, as a source from another team told Cowley that Williams "asked for everyone on our roster in return" for the left-hander. While an obvious exaggeration, it's no surprise that Williams would be demanding a lot for the 27-year-old Danks, who is set to make around $7-8 million in his final year of arbitration. I'm glad that if the Marlins are trying to trade for Danks, we're asking for a high price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2011 -> 12:00 PM) I'm glad that if the Marlins are trying to trade for Danks, we're asking for a high price. Yeah, but their system is 2007 White Sox bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2011 -> 12:00 PM) I'm glad that if the Marlins are trying to trade for Danks, we're asking for a high price. It's funny because it's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGSOXFan14 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Well Kenny is aiming high, but geez... KW asks for a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 So it's OK to give away our best prospects, but god forbid we ask for top prospects in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/whitesox-ta...mp;feedID=10338 Nats view Danks as backup plan to Gio? December 15, 2011, 10:10 pm JJ STANKEVITZ csnchicago.png @Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal#Nationals also want Gonzalez, view #WhiteSox's Danks as Plan B. After missing out on Buehrle, LH starter remains Nats' priority. #MLB Dec 16 via Twitter for MacFavoriteRetweetReply On one hand, this makes sense. No team has met Kenny Williams' exorbitant demands for John Danks yet, and if Washington misses out on its top two lefty targets, maybe they get desperate and meet the White Sox asking price. On the other hand, Williams has shown an affinity for trading with teams he's dealt and had a good experience with before, be it Arizona, Toronto, Philadelphia, etc. Williams, though, didn't have a very good experience trying to deal with Mike Rizzo and the Nationals last summer when rumors swirled the Sox acquired Edwin Jackson with the intention of flipping him to Washington for Adam Dunn. But when Washington came back asking for Jackson, Dayan Viciedo and Tyler Flowers, any chance of a Dunn deal fell through and the Sox kept Jackson (who, for the record, was great down the stretch in 2010). Maybe a weak trade market for Danks would force Williams to talk with the Nationals, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 What do the Nationals have in the way of prospects? Anybody that would be a nice get for Danks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 08:53 AM) What do the Nationals have in the way of prospects? Anybody that would be a nice get for Danks? I don't know a lot of names in particular, but they have made it a priority to rebuild their system in the last three years. My guess is our #1 target would be Brad Peacock, although I am not sure why they would want to trade him for Danksy. I am not sure why they are even interested in Danksy, to be honest, unless they believe they would have a better chance of signing a premier FA by acquiring him via trade and then re-signing him prior to him hitting FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 08:53 AM) What do the Nationals have in the way of prospects? Anybody that would be a nice get for Danks? I remember hearing about some kid named Harper?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 09:04 AM) I remember hearing about some kid named Harper?? Kenny should demand Strasburg and Harper just to give Rizzo a giant F-U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 09:06 AM) Kenny should demand Strasburg and Harper just to give Rizzo a giant F-U. Ha, I was thinking the same thing. If I were Kenny I would absolutely flip the table on Rizzo and treat him the same way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 10:09 AM) Ha, I was thinking the same thing. If I were Kenny I would absolutely flip the table on Rizzo and treat him the same way Actually, I would sucker him along and make it seem like I would do Peacock and another midlevel spect, and then right after all the other top targets change hands, I would say...I think I might need another piece....we're going to need one of either Harper or Strasburg... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 09:06 AM) Kenny should demand Strasburg and Harper just to give Rizzo a giant F-U. I know I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 10:09 AM) Ha, I was thinking the same thing. If I were Kenny I would absolutely flip the table on Rizzo and treat him the same way Although it might be nice to do so...if they're going to put a solid offer on the table for Danks, we aren't in a position to be jerks out of spite, we need the solid offer too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 16, 2011 -> 09:13 AM) Although it might be nice to do so...if they're going to put a solid offer on the table for Danks, we aren't in a position to be jerks out of spite, we need the solid offer too much. Eh. So you take that offer back to other teams, and get them to bid up. f*** Rizzo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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