flavum Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 10:45 AM) I could see KW falling in love with Gary Brown's speed and potential as leadoff hitter. Giants did trade their top pitching prospect last year for Beltran (Wheeler). Funny you should bring him up. I just heard an interview with him a few days ago on KNBR. First off, he sounds like a great guy. Then I watched a youtube video, and he can fly, but he did make some bad routes in the outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 10:47 AM) I wonder if Belt would be part of the trade.. Brown would be a great pick up as well. Brown sure, would be shocked on Belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Ok, so your barometer on whether to rebuild or not seems to fall on whether they resign Mark Buerhle. Is that fair to say? I don't think it's the entire barometer, but a good chunk of it. The chances of winning in 2012 are much higher with Mark than without. I can see a scenario where they lose out on Mark yet still decide to go for it by keeping Danks/Floyd/Quentin, but I don't see a scenario where they re-sign Mark yet dump major salary and rebuild. Even if they've decided not to keep Mark and to a major rebuild, it doesn't make sense to trade Danks/Floyd until there are teams who are more desperate after having missed out on Mark and CJ Wilson, unless there is some team out there who makes some kind of insane offer that KW just can't refuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 10:45 AM) I could see KW falling in love with Gary Brown's speed and potential as leadoff hitter. Giants did trade their top pitching prospect last year for Beltran (Wheeler). Brown is practically untouchable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:03 AM) Brown is practically untouchable. Is he really that fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 10:41 AM) The Giants are very interested in Quentin and Alexei... I could see the Sox moving Alexei at some point. He should command a very nice return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 06:03 PM) Brown is practically untouchable. Not if Alexei is included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:04 AM) Is he really that fast? Yes. Super toolsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:05 AM) Not if Alexei is included That might work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 10:02 AM) The Sox are not going to resign Buehrle. Why is there so much speculation that they will?! Let it go, people. Because it is still in the FO's plans to bring him back. I have firsthand knowledge that this is part of their plan granted some team doesnt give him 4 years at 15 million. But hey, continue with your statements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:19 AM) Because it is still in the FO's plans to bring him back. I have firsthand knowledge that this is part of their plan granted some team doesnt give him 4 years at 15 million. But hey, continue with your statements. I have zero firsthand knowledge, but that's what I've been thinking too. They are letting him test the market, but as long someone doesn't go overboard on their offer, they will try to match and keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:19 AM) Because it is still in the FO's plans to bring him back. I have firsthand knowledge that this is part of their plan granted some team doesnt give him 4 years at 15 million. But hey, continue with your statements. Is Buerhle going to come back and lose one year that he could have gotten elsewhere and potentially less money in the first 3 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiderman Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:19 AM) Because it is still in the FO's plans to bring him back. I have firsthand knowledge that this is part of their plan granted some team doesnt give him 4 years at 15 million. But hey, continue with your statements. Also, based upon your projected pitching staff in the other thread where you no longer have Danks and Floyd, why would Buerhle willingingly return for less years (and money) for a team that appears to be quasi-rebuilding? Why not take more years and more money and sign with Florida or Washington? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:29 AM) Is Buerhle going to come back and lose one year that he could have gotten elsewhere and potentially less money in the first 3 years? He did it four years ago, and gave up probably two more years and way more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 12:29 PM) Is Buerhle going to come back and lose one year that he could have gotten elsewhere and potentially less money in the first 3 years? I think he's saying that he won't be back if some team offers him the four years and $15 million, but if the offers are 3 years, $36-40 million, they will make him a similar offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (spiderman @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:30 AM) Also, based upon your projected pitching staff in the other thread where you no longer have Danks and Floyd, why would Buerhle willingingly return for less years (and money) for a team that appears to be quasi-rebuilding? Why not take more years and more money and sign with Florida or Washington? #1 he has a built in no-trade clause here already #2 Buehrle cares alot less about money than most pro athletes. If we are in the ballpark he comes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Where would Gary Brown play though with super toolsy Jared Mitchell and Keenyn Walker already in the system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 If Alexei is on the block the top candidates wouldd probably be all in the NL East in Philly, Atlanta, and the Mets. Mariners may be in play too, especially if they get Fielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 The Santos trade makes me think that the Sox are going to be more willing to trade guys like Alexei, Beckham, etc. Maybe not, but I didn't expect the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 09:04 AM) Is he really that fast? He can fly. Watched him play a lot at Fullerton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 The Sox hire a guy (Marco Paddy) from Toronto last week... and trade with the Blue Jays this week to get a player he signed. They also hired a scout (Kevin Bootay) who's been with the Twins and Rangers. Wonder who he's signed that we're looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 If this Thornton to braves thing happens, I hope Quentin is in a package deal to actually get something good back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Atlanta writer is saying the Thornton to Braves deal isn't happening. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 02:34 PM) If this Thornton to braves thing happens, I hope Quentin is in a package deal to actually get something good back. That was my first thought when seeing the Cowley tweet as well. If memory serves, Q was mentioned for guys like Brandon Beachy, correct? I would assume (hope) a package of Thornton and Quentin would be able to get a solid return and tap into that pool of strong SPs Atlanta has been apparently garnering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 #1 he has a built in no-trade clause here already #2 Buehrle cares alot less about money than most pro athletes. If we are in the ballpark he comes back. To Play for a team that isn't going to contend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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