Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 01:49 PM) But imagine the package required for Gio. Danks would be much more attractive because you could get him for a lot less (which should still be a lot anyway). I realize that. But Gio is not a FA until 2016. If a team is going to part with top prospects, you're going to lean a lot more towards him I would imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) What teams are in on SS? I've been trying to ascertain that for the last 24 hours. Atlanta, S.F, Philly, Milwaukee, Boston, Ny Mets, Reds and STL Edited December 5, 2011 by SOXOBAMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Danks is not as movable as many think. No team us give up a top prospect for one season of control. Even if he was under control as Floyd, he isn't that good to demain one top spect... to ask for 2 is downright luaghable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Sign Alex Gonzalez or Betancourt on the cheap.. If we are going to rebuild, get rid of everyone and bring many top and mid level prospects in this organzation... With the current front office track record... How likely are the sox to get quality spects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Great, the thread's about to go down the drain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:06 PM) Great, the thread's about to go down the drain. Needs more news or rumors. Or cowbell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 12:06 PM) Great, the thread's about to go down the drain. Until things actually start heating up - thus, giving us things to discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:03 PM) Even if he was under control as Floyd, he isn't that good to demain one top spect... to ask for 2 is downright luaghable. If he were under control for even two years he'd command at least one top prospect. And by top prospect I mean consensus top 20ish or so. He still might now (long as you're not ridiculous). I agree that guys like Jesus Montero are pure fantasy. Edited December 5, 2011 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:03 PM) Even if he was under control as Floyd, he isn't that good to demain one top spect... to ask for 2 is downright luaghable. No it isn't. GMs do it routinely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 If he were under control for even two years he'd command at least one top prospect. He still might now (long as you're not ridiculous). If Danks didn't have a down season, than I can see asking for a top spect, but KW is in no position to ask for anything close to what he would have last year this time trading Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 Its Monday, and the Sox are asking NYY for Banuelos and Montero in exchange for Danks. NYY says won't trade either. I'm guessing by Wednesday we'll hear he was traded for one of them. Also, although Danks is under control for 1 year, he has more value than that to a team like NYY. They are a team that could afford his next contract, and they get a 1-year control period to negotiate it, doing more direct analysis all the while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Don't forget, under the new CBA, Danks has better odds of providing a team maximum compensation in the amateur draft should he declare himself a free agent at the end of the season. If KW can't receive a return in trade significantly better than the expected value of that draft compensation, then he should keep Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Its Monday, and the Sox are asking NYY for Banuelos and Montero in exchange for Danks. NYY says won't trade either. I'm guessing by Wednesday we'll hear he was traded for one of them. Also, although Danks is under control for 1 year, he has more value than that to a team like NYY. They are a team that could afford his next contract, and they get a 1-year control period to negotiate it, doing more direct analysis all the while. I don't think the Yankees are even an trading partner.. Just a simple misdirection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Its Monday, and the Sox are asking NYY for Banuelos and Montero in exchange for Danks. NYY says won't trade either. I'm guessing by Wednesday we'll hear he was traded for one of them. Also, although Danks is under control for 1 year, he has more value than that to a team like NYY. They are a team that could afford his next contract, and they get a 1-year control period to negotiate it, doing more direct analysis all the while. We should make it a bigger package. Danks/Thornton for Banuelos, Gary Sanchez, and Dante Bichette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 We should make it a bigger package. Danks/Thornton for Banuelos, Gary Sanchez, and Dante Bichette He was just drafted, someone correct me if I am wrong.. but he can't get traded for 1 year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:31 PM) He was just drafted, someone correct me if I am wrong.. but he can't get traded for 1 year? True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 He was just drafted, someone correct me if I am wrong.. but he can't get traded for 1 year? I thought the rules changed with the new CBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 We need a trade to happen so we can start saying how awful KW is, how he should have gotten a frozen lobster thrown into the deal, and that the Marlins are going to be so much better (they will be, but who cares!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 We need a trade to happen so we can start saying how awful KW is, how he should have gotten a frozen lobster thrown into the deal, and that the Marlins are going to be so much better (they will be, but who cares!). Marlins will still be in 4th place. Philly, Atl and Wash are much better teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Marlins will still be in 4th place. Philly, Atl and Wash are much better teams Agree.. They need SP, they didn't need a Often-injuried SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:36 PM) We need a trade to happen so we can start saying how awful KW is, how he should have gotten a frozen lobster thrown into the deal, and that the Marlins are going to be so much better (they will be, but who cares!). Jay Cowley tweeted earlier today that Florida and the Sox had been talking FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 02:32 PM) I thought the rules changed with the new CBA I believe that's for players drafted as a part of compensation for a free agent. I could be wrong though...too lazy to look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Jay Cowley tweeted earlier today that Florida and the Sox had been talking FWIW. Floyd for Morrison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Jay Cowley tweeted earlier today that Florida and the Sox had been talking FWIW. Ozzie for Danks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 5, 2011 -> 03:32 PM) True. Can be included as a PTBNL per the old CBA. Not sure if that has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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