joeynach Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Ventura says Dunn will get more playing time in the field (its all over Twitter), including time in the OF. Again, another example of blatant disregard of advanced metrics, something we saw with Ozzie too (remember 75 pitch Peavy). Advanced statistics have a place in this game weather u were brought up with them or not, they are not just for mid twenties baseball bloggers. If you ignore them you will wind up playing a guy whose is -127.3 career defensive WAR player, the same guy who posted a staggering -37.3 def WAR season in 2010 for the Nats. Dude also owns a career -167 defensive runs above replacement figure (according to Baseball Info Solutions). Can some non archaic baseball thinker (of the media) please ask Robin if he is aware of things like this, even cares to look, and why he would play such an established poor defender in the field more. This isnt rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (joeynach @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 03:58 PM) Ventura says Dunn will get more playing time in the field (its all over Twitter), including time in the OF. Again, another example of blatant disregard of advanced metrics, something we saw with Ozzie too (remember 75 pitch Peavy). Advanced statistics have a place in this game weather u were brought up with them or not, they are not just for mid twenties baseball bloggers. If you ignore them you will wind up playing a guy whose is -127.3 career defensive WAR player, the same guy who posted a staggering -37.3 def WAR season in 2010 for the Nats. Dude also owns a career -167 defensive runs above replacement figure (according to Baseball Info Solutions). Can some non archaic baseball thinker (of the media) please ask Robin if he is aware of things like this, even cares to look, and why he would play such an established poor defender in the field more. This isnt rocket science. Because they owe him good money and if his offensive WAR is more productive then his negative defensive WAR because he can not DH, you have to live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunofgold Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) This is bad news. We are going to need the best defense on the field as much as possible. Edited December 6, 2011 by sunofgold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Those WAR stats are a bit skewed because it takes into account his play in the OF. I would guess RV is going to play him at 1B more to help rest Paulie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Chill on the predictable "WTF!!!" reactions to a new manager's comment on December freaking 6th. The only way to explain Dunn's historical performance last season is he can't DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 05:05 PM) Those WAR stats are a bit skewed because it takes into account his play in the OF. I would guess RV is going to play him at 1B more to help rest Paulie. I hope so because Dunn should never play in the OF. But that's not what is being reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 05:06 PM) Chill on the predictable "WTF!!!" reactions to a new manager's comment on December freaking 6th. The only way to explain Dunn's historical performance last season is he can't DH. He didn't hit any better when he played 1B either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 f*** you Robin Ventura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 04:06 PM) I hope so because Dunn should never play in the OF. But that's not what is being reported. He said that while getting barraged by questions at WINTER meetings. I dont think there is much to it. Maybe Adam will run a few more laps since he heard it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) He said that while getting barraged by questions at WINTER meetings. I dont think there is much to it. Maybe Adam will run a few more laps since he heard it though. Maybe the Sox shouldn't have hired a mental midget then... Sorry that's a cop out answer as to why he answered like that. Edited December 6, 2011 by VictoryMC98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (VictoryMC98 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 04:18 PM) Maybe the Sox shouldn't have hired a mental midget then... Sorry that's a cop out answer as to why he answered like that. Not sure how my answer pointed to him being a mental midget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Not sure how my answer pointed to him being a mental midget. I took it he couldn't handle the onslaught of questions, as to the reason why he answered the way he did. Which is apart of being a MLB manager..esp at winter meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Maybe he will be next year's Lance Berkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'll complain when I actually see Dunn in the field more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (Tex @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 04:29 PM) I'll complain when I actually see Dunn in the field more. Pretty much. This is nothing as of right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapzk Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 06:27 PM) Maybe he will be next year's Lance Berkman Unfortunately Dunn is not back in the NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Ventura answered the only way possible. Sox are going to try and do things to help Dunn hit better. That may mean he plays 1b for 1 inning, it may mean he plays 0 innings. It hurts no one to suggest it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 11:16 PM) Maybe Adam will run a few more laps since he heard it though. In the offseason? Not likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 04:07 PM) He didn't hit any better when he played 1B either. Cant compare sporadic starts to years of every day. He was toast by then. There is no way around this huge problem. 1B is PK. Everybody knows that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Maybe he will be next year's Lance Berkman We could only wish.. 1 year deal worth 8million.. please.. please!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Sounds to me like "get Yonder Alonso" time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 (edited) 2 pages and no one has mentioned that maybe this could mean theyre trading pk and making dunn full time at first? makes a whole lotta sense if theyre rebuilding Edited December 7, 2011 by 2nd_city_saint787 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 The whole point of this would be to create a blooper reel one could play that fast-paces blooper music over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 6, 2011 -> 07:42 PM) Sounds to me like "get Yonder Alonso" time! Reds coulda used santos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictoryMC98 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Reds coulda used santos. the White Sox could use Votto.. Just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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